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Mark Dacey appointed new men’s manager

If Hanwell should be removed (I agree) and Brentford were unable to fulfill the fixture, it should have been Hamlet v the other semi finalists in the final.

We should play them preseason and award the virtual trophy to the winner!
 
Pink Panther said:
I think I've had my own personal reset since relegation, in terms of what I'm hoping to see. This time 2 years ago I was pretty grumpy about losing our National South status that we'd worked so hard to achieve. This time last year I was disappointed with 12th place and no real hint of a promotion challenge, even though we'd won more games (17) than we lost (14) for the first time since promotion 6 years earlier. My expectation when relegated was a serious promotion challenge (i.e. top 5 finish) within 2 years. I don't think that was unrealistic at the time, but after this season I simply want to enjoy the matchdays again. We won 6 of the first 8 home league games this season, but only 4 of the remaining 13. As for the away form, well, 2 league wins all season, one in September at Canvey Island and the other on a Tuesday evening in March at Potters Bar. I go to about half the away games and I've personally seen a single away win in each of the last two seasons, at Margate in February last year and Potters Bar a couple of months ago. The last few away defeats with the spectre of relegation looming (Dover, Cray Valley, Bognor) were so depressing I wondered why I bother, so for Carshalton I didn't.

I have no great expectation of a top 5 finish next season, I just want to enjoy the games again, and to win more than we lose. I'd like to think we can build towards eventually becoming Isthmian League champions again, but I'm not desperate to win the play-offs just for the sake of climbing the pyramid. Do I really want to visit Chippenham again instead of Chichester? Or Farnborough instead of Folkestone? (Alright, I miss Bath, but we've got Lewes and now Ramsgate too.)

Two years ago it was uncertain whether we'd retain our crowd numbers in the lower league, and if you'd told me then we would finish 12th and 18th in the next two seasons I'd have has visions of attendances diminishing towards 1,500 or less and collapsing the whole business model that got us where we were, but amazingly that didn't happen. I'd now like to see a younger manager and team grow over a period of several seasons, rather than signing a load of National South players in search of a quick fix and an instant promotion challenge.
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We brought the luck to Potters Bar. Without that win it would have been relegation.
 
EDC said:
We brought the luck to Potters Bar. Without that win it would have been relegation.
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When we won the monsoon match at Potters Bar last season we fell apart straight after. League table reflects season and we did just enough early doors and crunch match Vs Canvey
 
EDC said:
We brought the luck to Potters Bar. Without that win it would have been relegation.
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We'd have stayed up by 2 points instead of 5 points if we'd lost at Potters Bar, but I'm very glad it didn't get as tight as that.

Multigums said:
When we won the monsoon match at Potters Bar last season we fell apart straight after. League table reflects season and we did just enough early doors and crunch match Vs Canvey
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23 points from the first 14 games gave us a reasonable platform to challenge for a top 5 finish.

6 points from the next 14 games was diabolical.

15 points from the final 14 games was poor, but just enough to avert a total catastrophe.
 
liamdhfc said:
After this season's shambles, personally I’d like to see a Supporters Team entered in it next season.it should never be up to the clubs to police eligibility and in any other competition Hanwell would have been removed. Now the final is next season and most of the players in it are likely to be ineligible.
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Perhaps, but that needs a rule change. The LSC rules are quite clear that it's the club's role to do this presently. If clubs wants to change that, then the London FA AGM is on 14 July and a motion for that could be presented in advance.

In saying that, the London FA employs one cups and competition officer (Jamaal) to manage numerous cups across the capital for men, women and boys/girls of all age groups. For him to check eligibility for every match using (from what in told) an ineffective Whole Game System, then it would very difficult. The FA's WGS would need to allow the LFA to undertake automated checks for this realistically to fall within their remit IMO.

I do however feel that it was wrong to delay the final, as county FA matches are meant to take precedent over league matches, so Brentford B's league should have been told to postpone a league match. I also agree that the semi-final should have been replayed as Hanwell wanted this too. That was sufficient exceptional circumstance to allow the ever so minimal delayed appeal to be permitted.
 
pompeydunc said:
Perhaps, but that needs a rule change. The LSC rules are quite clear that it's the club's role to do this presently. If clubs wants to change that, then the London FA AGM is on 14 July and a motion for that could be presented in advance.

In saying that, the London FA employs one cups and competition officer (Jamaal) to manage numerous cups across the capital for men, women and boys/girls of all age groups. For him to check eligibility for every match using (from what in told) an ineffective Whole Game System, then it would very difficult. The FA's WGS would need to allow the LFA to undertake automated checks for this realistically to fall within their remit IMO.

I do however feel that it was wrong to delay the final, as county FA matches are meant to take precedent over league matches, so Brentford B's league should have been told to postpone a league match. I also agree that the semi-final should have been replayed as Hanwell wanted this too. That was sufficient exceptional circumstance to allow the ever so minimal delayed appeal to be permitted.
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Am I right in thinking at least one of the Football League club development teams (Brentford, Charlton, Orient) named at least one "Triallist" in the London Senior Cup this season? I may have got my wires crossed here, but if that's the case any ineligible player would be impossible to identify for any administrator, in which case it makes a mockery of having rules to prevent other players from playing.
 
Nothing that hasn't been said before, but spoke to Dean Lodge at weekend. He spoke highly of Dacey and how well regarded he is as a coach and people manager. He felt it was a strong appointment. He's particularly known for his work at Kinetic academy apparently.
 
pompeydunc said:
Daniel Bennett from Whyteleafe incoming? 👀

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I see all sorts of managers and players retweeting goal clips or favourable reports of players they're acquainted with.

I'm sure we'll get a few players Mark has worked with before, but I wouldn't read anything into that particular message.

Incidentally I believe Whyteleafe were cleared of the ineligible player allegations arising from Jersey Bulls' audit of everyone else's teamsheets in the CoCo Premier South promotion fiasco, so I guess that leaves them promoted as champions unless Redhill are also cleared on appeal. Therefore Whyteleafe will only be one step below us next season.
 
Did anyone read the interview with him in the NLP? I found it incredibly underwhelming. Didn’t fill me with much confidence!
 
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Is Elizabeth Bennett going to be head coach?


Oh Dacey….
 
liamdhfc said:
Yes I did and thought it honest and realistic.
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Is the article available to read in full anywhere?

Bit of a cliched phrase, but think expectation management is key this season. So much is being changed, across the whole playing side of the men’s team. A reset, rebuild, whatever we want to call it, it looks to be pretty fundamental.

I’ve said before, but a step in the right direction for me will be actually looking forward to going to games again, and supporting a team that is giving their all on the pitch, ideally trying to play entertaining football.

Where that ends up in the table, we’ll see. Top half would be more than enough for me, albeit before a football has been kicked in anger.
 
liamdhfc said:
Yes I did and thought it honest and realistic.
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Think fans, especially ST holders would appreciate transparency from the club around what a good season looks like then. Especially after the lofty expectations of the last 2 seasons. If it’s mid-table, which to be fair is progression from the last 2 debacles then fair enough. At least we go into the season with expectations managed.
 
lwrs79 said:
Think fans, especially ST holders would appreciate transparency from the club around what a good season looks like then. Especially after the lofty expectations of the last 2 seasons. If it’s mid-table, which to be fair is progression from the last 2 debacles then fair enough. At least we go into the season with expectations managed.
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Transparency. The manager will want to win every match but that’s unlikely.
The team should play attractive football and develop a connection with the fans so people enjoy coming to games
If you want a target for league position, there isn’t one because that’s just putting unnecessary pressure on.
We will not be amongst the big spenders- Ramsgate, Folkestone, Billericay, Chatham. Cray Valley,to name a few but there will be otherss.

Hopefully we can do a Dover with good recruiting and good management letting us punch above our budget.
 
liamdhfc said:
Transparency. The manager will want to win every match but that’s unlikely.
The team should play attractive football and develop a connection with the fans so people enjoy coming to games
If you want a target for league position, there isn’t one because that’s just putting unnecessary pressure on.
We will not be amongst the big spenders- Ramsgate, Folkestone, Billericay, Chatham. Cray Valley,to name a few but there will be otherss.

Hopefully we can do a Dover with good recruiting and good management letting us punch above our budget.
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Thanks Liam. Appreciate it
 
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