March on the City - Protestors make it into the Stock Exchange Building

[ClassWar]

you don't say

BBC report:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7664707.stm

it appears you go out of your way to appear as thick as possible.

the met policed wapping. wapping is in the metropolitan police district. the city police had fuck all to do with it.

the met famously went to mining areas during the 84/85 strike waving their overtime money. the city police did not.

is that really so very hard to understand?

 

[mk12]

No one answered my question. I understand you all had fun, but what did this achieve? What was it trying to achieve?

 

[SpookyFrank]

It's come to something when the swappies are kicking off and the anarchists are nowhere to be seen

If ever there was a time to start riots...

 

[Groucho]

it appears you go out of your way to appear as thick as possible.

the met policed wapping. wapping is in the metropolitan police district. the city police had fuck all to do with it.

the met famously went to mining areas during the 84/85 strike waving their overtime money. the city police did not.

is that really so very hard to understand?

And the Earth goes round the Sun and the moon goes round the Earth and your point is?

 

[Thora]

It's come to something when the swappies are kicking off and the anarchists are nowhere to be seen

If ever there was a time to start riots...

There were plenty of anarchists there tbf, just no organised bloc.

 

[audiotech]

No one answered my question. I understand you all had fun, but what did this achieve? What was it trying to achieve?

The slogans on the placards give a clue. Oh I forgot, you haven't got one.

 

[mk12]

What were the slogans?

 

[the button]

What were the slogans?

"Why should we pay for their crisis?"

Oh, and, er....

"Out of Iraq and Afghanistan."

 

[mk12]

The first is a question, not a demand.

So according to MC5's logic, the protest wanted someone to answer that question. And for people in the shopping centre to pull people out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[the button]

The first is a question, not a demand.

It said "Because most of us are consumers of financial-sector products such as pensions and mortgages" on the other side.

 

[Fullyplumped]

The first is a question, not a demand.

So according to MC5's logic, the protest wanted someone to answer that question. And for people in the shopping centre to pull people out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Well to be fair, it was a very good question by the students, and maybe if they'd been less chippy and shouty, a very interesting debate and exchange of knowledge and ideas might have ensued once people had finished their work. I bet they don't use placards and such in class.

 

[mk12]

a very interesting debate and exchange of knowledge and ideas might have ensued once people had finished their work

This isn't as fun though.

 

[the button]

This isn't as fun though.

Especially if the slogan you were chanting beforehand was "You say bankers, we say wankers."

 

[Fullyplumped]

This isn't as fun though.

That's SWP/SWSS - all about the fun.

 

[stowpirate]

My biggest regret in life was being involved in the design of the touch screen technology that allowed these cretins within the stock exchange to feed on the rest of us. I would love to see the whole thing come crashing down as in the great depression. Why you might ask well some have far more to lose and the shock might kill them!

The average person on the street has no idea how we are feeding on the fear and poverty of the third world. The inevitable factory QA visit from the western buyers would cause absolute terror on the shop floor of factories in China. Production line personnel shaking in fear was common, god knows what happened to them if they gave an incorrect answer or made a minor mistake while on the factory tour. Then there was the total lack of health and safety and the piles of solder being flicked on to the floor.

 

[audiotech]

The first is a question, not a demand.

So according to MC5's logic, the protest wanted someone to answer that question. And for people in the shopping centre to pull people out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

That's your logic, not mine. Anyway, I'm never logical - passionate sometimes.

This small protest in London has gained publicity world-wide and raised a beacon. Whether workers and students flock to it and take collective action against any attempt to have the working class pay for this crisis is the key question and only if that happens can there be any talk of 'achievement'.

 

[mk12]

gained publicity world-wide and raised a beacon

Oh for god's sake.

 

[audiotech]

Oh for god's sake.

So we do nothing and call for gods help?

 

[mk12]

Doing something for the sake of it is just as pointless as doing nothing.

 

[audiotech]

Doing something for the sake of it is just as pointless as doing nothing.

As I said, you haven't a fucking clue.

 

[Darios]

Doing something for the sake of it is just as pointless as doing nothing.

Even if it is "just" symbolic? You don't think symbols are important?

 

[mutley]

The point is that people all over the world will be attacked because of this crisis - jobs, wages, tax levels, you name it - and its important that people stand up, right at the start, and say we're not fucking paying the price for this mess, and that they're seen to do so.

I was inspired by the protests that happpened on Wall Street a couple of weeks ago. And I'm not that bothered by the precise demands people are raising, the point is that there wil be some big fuck off class battles as a result of this, and I'd like to think that they won't be one-sided massacres.

 

[mk12]

As I said, you haven't a fucking clue.

As long as you all had fun though, thats the main thing.

 

[Fullyplumped]

Well to be fair, it was a very good question by the students, and maybe if they'd been less chippy and shouty, a very interesting debate and exchange of knowledge and ideas might have ensued once people had finished their work. I bet they don't use placards and such in class.

Serious point - how do people think the "protesters" would fare if they really did enter into a proper debate and try to engage the workers in the Stock Exchange they were protesting against?

 

[Groucho]

Serious point - how do people think the "protesters" would fare if they really did enter into a proper debate and try to engage the workers in the Stock Exchange they were protesting against?

I understand that the Marxist students at the London School of Economics have challenged the right wing lecturers to a debate on capitalism but the lecturers are running scared.

 

[Kanda]

What shops are in there that are so important?

 

[Fullyplumped]

I understand that the Marxist students at the London School of Economics have challenged the right wing lecturers to a debate on capitalism but the lecturers are running scared.

Right wing lecturers are no use - I mean stockbrokers, traders - practitioners not academics.

 

[SpookyFrank]

There were plenty of anarchists there tbf, just no organised bloc.

As I suspected. Perhaps for once the swappies actualy pulled off their trick of handing out SWP placards to everyone at a demo to make it look like they organised the whole thing...

 

[Bakunin]

As I suspected. Perhaps for once the swappies actualy pulled off their trick of handing out SWP placards to everyone at a demo to make it look like they organised the whole thing...

It is their standard MO, after all.

Build 'The Party', sell the paper, (insert empty and meaningless slogan here).

 

[winjer]

The demo broke through police lines on numerous occassions and marched where people wanted.

More bullshit, who wanted to march into a police pen on the corner of Bishopsgate and Wormwood Street?

We know it was the City police.

You know what was the City police? That didn't beat up the miners at Wapping?

We know the buildings stormed were the Bank of England

'stormed'? Have a word with yourself.