Manned mission to Venus using floating airships

Discussion in 'science, nature and environment' started by 2hats, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. 2hats

    2hats

    A manned mission to Venus that's not quite so batshit as it may sound at first.

    Only 100 days to get there (significantly shorter than Mars and a far lower planetary protection risk). Float around in an airship for about 30 days conducting observations, dropping probes at the ~1 atmosphere pressure altitude (around 50km, 75 degC, gravity about 0.9g). Even just a robotic variant of the mission (needed as a first phase anyway to test the technologies) would be fruitful.
     
  2. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Make it so please.
     
  3. N_igma

    N_igma Epistemic nuisance

    I'd be very incredulous about this. Couldn't they do the whole thing with robots why the need for humans?
     
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  4. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Curious end to that video...
     
  5. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone post tenebras lux

    What if those two humans were Richard Branson and Simon Cowell? That changes things a bit, doesn't it?
     
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  6. BandWagon

    BandWagon Life's a bitch and then you die...

    There are probably a few more people we could put in there...
     
  7. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Choosing the 1atm pressure level seems a little strange to me. Go a bit higher and the pressure would still be liveable, but the temperature will be much more friendly than 75C. In fact, IIRC, a breathable gas mixture at this altitude would actually be buoyant in Venus' atmosphere, making it possible to have a single envelope for living quarters and flotation.
     
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  8. 2hats

    2hats

    I think it was suggested as ~1atm. You are right - something around say 0.85atm might be a better compromise and a breathable envelope mix could (IIRC) be buoyant around that position in the Venusian atmosphere.
     
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  9. Mr Moose

    Mr Moose What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?

    Probs not going to be asked, but it's a 'no' from me.
     
  10. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone post tenebras lux

    Indeed. We're gonna need a bigger airship.
     
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  11. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Fascinating stuff:

    NASA wants to send humans to Venus – here's why that's a brilliant idea
     
  12. NoXion

    NoXion Eat leaden death, demon...

    Humans floating in the cytherean clouds would be able to control robots on the surface in real time.
     
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  13. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    But how are they going to launch an airship into space? :confused::D
     
  14. wayward bob

    wayward bob i ate all your bees

    i was unable to like this thread as i already have :(
     
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  15. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

  16. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    folded up
     
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  17. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    How do you get round the problem of the pressure and corrosiveness of the Venusian atmosphere at the surface destroying everything within minutes?
     
  18. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

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  19. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

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  20. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Loving it!

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  21. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    This is amazing: the lander may communicate via morse code!

     
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  22. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    You'd still need some very clever clockwork to encode observational data into morse, or realistically binary code.
     
  23. NoXion

    NoXion Eat leaden death, demon...

    Clockwork proposals aside, if the Soviets in the 1970s could get a lander working long enough to send back at least one picture, then I see no reason why modern space agencies could not improve significantly upon that feat.
     
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  24. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    Perhaps a lander made entirely of Nokia 3310s vibrating their way sluggishly across the Venusian landscape.
     
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  25. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    No buck Rogers no bucks
     
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