Manchester United 2007-08 season

[Iam]

Who said anything about Arsenal? Or knowledgeable fans for that matter - it's all about the glory hunting nonsense I'm on about. Although I'll wager they have a far higher percentage of their fans in London than Man U do in Manchester.

Care for a bet me old plastic?

You're an Arse, no?

 

[Balbi]

So, you lot fancy another Ferdinand wonder strike tomorrow night?

 

[tarannau]

You're an Arse, no?

Nope, I'm an old Wimbledon supporter. Played in the same school team as two future Dons, went to Plough Lane, then Selhurst, jumpers for goalposts, misty eyed memories etc.

Which is why I know all about the unappetising sight of franchise fcs, glory hunting fans and money grabbing owners/'fans' without a sense of local pride and history.

Why the distaste for lazy glory hunting plastic supporters? They're at the root of all that's bad about British football.

 

[Iam]

In which case, you have my apologies. Dunno where I got that from.

Obviously, all the glory hunting has gone to my fick ead.

 

[Kanda]

So every thread has to get torn up by your activism, excellent, I'll avoid the sports forum for a bit then

 

[Iam]

So, you lot fancy another Ferdinand wonder strike tomorrow night?

This new lad, Tevez... I reckon he might cause old Sol a bit of a headache...

*crosses fingers*

 

[kained&able]

I know what im whieoing sabout. Negetive boring football. Its not on.

Sour grapes? what have man city got to do with reading? we played shit for 70 minutes and got what we deserved im fine with that. It just had better change on saturday when parker and neil and ashon all start.


dave

 

[Mr Retro]

'fans' without a sense of local pride and history.

I suppose I'd be classed as one of these, being Irish and supporting United from afar. I have done since my cousin took me to the pub to watch the cup final in 1985 and I was 12.

Do you need to have local and pride and history to be a fan of a football club? Not in my view or in the hundreds of thousands of Irish people who have an English team. A friend of mine who bagan supporting Leeds in the 70's still travels to England to see them and they are giving him permanent depression. Is his pride in Leeds in question?

It's different naturally. I don't hate the Scousers or Man City or Leeds. In fact I went to liverpool last year on a break with my parents and found the people spot on (I choose not to reveal this on the Stretford End on Sunday)

Anyway just secured my Sunderland ticket for Roys Return this afternoon.

 

[Balbi]

This new lad, Tevez... I reckon he might cause old Sol a bit of a headache...

*crosses fingers*

Sol and Pedro might be out with tweaks picked up at Clogger County

And Linvoy's out.

I fear it may be a back four of.

Lauren Pamarot Distin Hreidersson

 

[tarannau]

I suppose I'd be classed as one of these, being Irish and supporting United from afar. I have done since my cousin took me to the pub to watch the cup final in 1985 and I was 12.
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Yes, it does matter imo. You're better than most - I suspect you've even been to Old Trafford and seen a game or two - but you're still part of the process which leads to the decay of football's local links and proud history.

You're little better, if I'm harsh, than one of those 80s saddos that festooned themselves in Dallas kit and talked as if they were one of the "Cowboys' most deserving fans - it's the same globalised glory hunting instinct that leads to football's worst excesses. Were there really no local clubs most deserving and needing of your support, no other local links that tie you to other clubs. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but there again you're first instinct was to slag off Reading's comparatively small support and talk of your first match being a cup final, which doesn't exactly get away get away from the glory hunter accusations.

I don't know, I quite liked the way Liverpool played as a kid - hell, they won everything after all. I think I even had a club strip as a nipper. But I'd never dream of supporting them as an adult - I'm a Londoner for christsakes and the whole concept of supporting a club largely because they were successful when they were children seems bizarre and more than a little mercenary. Don't worry - I happily take the piss out of people close to home on a regular basis too, including a few plastic paddy Utd fans down thepub...

 

[Iam]

Sol and Pedro might be out with tweaks picked up at Clogger County

And Linvoy's out.

I fear it may be a back four of.

Lauren Pamarot Distin Hreidersson

If we play stuck in 3rd gear again, like on Sunday, you'll be fine!

 

[gabi]

Yes, it does matter imo. You're better than most - I suspect you've even been to Old Trafford and seen a game or two - but you're still part of the process which leads to the decay of football's local links and proud history.

You're little better, if I'm harsh, than one of those 80s saddos that festooned themselves in Dallas kit and talked as if they were one of the "Cowboys' most deserving fans - it's the same globalised glory hunting instinct that leads to football's worst excesses. Were there really no local clubs most deserving and needing of your support, no other local links that tie you to other clubs. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but there again you're first instinct was to slag off Reading's comparatively small support and talk of your first match being a cup final, which doesn't exactly get away get away from the glory hunter accusations.

I don't know, I quite liked the way Liverpool played as a kid - hell, they won everything after all. I think I even had a club strip as a nipper. But I'd never dream of supporting them as an adult - I'm a Londoner for christsakes and the whole concept of supporting a club largely because they were successful when they were children seems bizarre and more than a little mercenary. Don't worry - I happily take the piss out of people close to home on a regular basis too, including a few plastic paddy Utd fans down thepub...

So how does the argument above work for those born and raised outside the UK? Have supported United since before I was born (my dad supports em). Only moved to the UK ten years ago though.....Am I a plastic?

 

[Iam]

Yes, it does matter imo. You're better than most - I suspect you've even been to Old Trafford and seen a game or two - but you're still part of the process which leads to the decay of football's local links and proud history.

You're little better, if I'm harsh, than one of those 80s saddos that festooned themselves in Dallas kit and talked as if they were one of the "Cowboys' most deserving fans - it's the same globalised glory hunting instinct that leads to football's worst excesses. Were there really no local clubs most deserving and needing of your support, no other local links that tie you to other clubs. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but there again you're first instinct was to slag off Reading's comparatively small support and talk of your first match being a cup final, which doesn't exactly get away get away from the glory hunter accusations.

I don't know, I quite liked the way Liverpool played as a kid - hell, they won everything after all. I think I even had a club strip as a nipper. But I'd never dream of supporting them as an adult - I'm a Londoner for christsakes and the whole concept of supporting a club largely because they were successful when they were children seems bizarre and more than a little mercenary. Don't worry - I happily take the piss out of people close to home on a regular basis too, including a few plastic paddy Utd fans down thepub...

Without disputing that goes on, it doesn't make it any less dully wearing to see people who are fans of other clubs, but quite definitely not from that area, trying to use it over and over, year in, year out as a stick to beat United fans with because they don't know enough about the game to talk about that.

Talk about how United were pretty dull themselves on Sunday, without much of a plan for how to break down Reading's well-prepared, well-conditioned gameplan usually gets lost in the bitter, bronx-cheering...

As for me not being a Manc, up yer arse, soft southern monkey!

 

[tarannau]

So how does the argument above work for those born and raised outside the UK? Have supported United since before I was born (my dad supports em). Only moved to the UK ten years ago though.....Am I a plastic?

Most probably yes. Where do you live in the UK now?

I can vaguely understand it if you went to your first ever game at Old Trafford with your dad, but otherwise you don't always follow your father's precedents. I've not got a penchant for Farah slacks and bad soca for example - I support England at rugby rather than Wales (I played down South) and have a vague look at dad's Cardiff FC as a 2nd team. At the end of the day I was born, raised and played sports in London - the teams I support reflect that.

 

[Kanda]

Where do we line up to get Tarannau's seal of approval?

Jesus fucking christ, read your posts fella...

I understand your dislike, I understand where you're coming from but does every thread, every poster need the fucking stamp of approval from you before they post? Have you got nothing better to chat about in other teams threads than the origin of it's supporters? Is it really worth being that fanatical??

Or are you just trying to be Flimsiers replacement?

 

[Iam]

Sorry.

 

[Mr Retro]

Yes, it does matter imo. You're better than most - I suspect you've even been to Old Trafford and seen a game or two - but you're still part of the process which leads to the decay of football's local links and proud history.

You're little better, if I'm harsh, than one of those 80s saddos that festooned themselves in Dallas kit and talked as if they were one of the "Cowboys' most deserving fans - it's the same globalised glory hunting instinct that leads to football's worst excesses. Were there really no local clubs most deserving and needing of your support, no other local links that tie you to other clubs. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but there again you're first instinct was to slag off Reading's comparatively small support and talk of your first match being a cup final, which doesn't exactly get away get away from the glory hunter accusations.

I started after a cup final because I was 12 for fuck sake and captivated! Live football was limited to Irish Internationals and the cup final. So that year it would have been a choice from United or Everton!!!

You don't understand the Irish and football though to be fair. The attitude is completly different to over here. Not as tribal and you are allowed to support a team that you enjoy watching without having to defend it.

Part of the process which leads to the decay of football's local links and proud history

Don't be so fucking pompous.

I din't get involved with these threads before because I knew I'd have the preaching about being a United fan and not being from Manchester. That along with arrogant dismissals "I suppose you've been to a game or two" by self elected "Defenders of Local Teams for Local People". Thanks for not leaving me down

 

[Kanda]

I'm kinda sorry I posted that too but do we have to have it all the fucking time. Really?

Have you not vented that same argument numerous times before?

It just seems a bit like a thread Nazi to me, someone telling people when or what they can post

 

[gabi]

Most probably yes. Where do you live in the UK now?

I can vaguely understand it if you went to your first ever game at Old Trafford with your dad, but otherwise you don't always follow your father's precedents. I've not got a penchant for Farah slacks and bad soca for example - I support England at rugby rather than Wales (I played down South) and have a vague look at dad's Cardiff FC as a 2nd team. At the end of the day I was born, raised and played sports in London - the teams I support reflect that.

I live in London (I love United but I was hardly going to move across the world to live in Manchester thanks)

So anyway by your logic, I would only be allowed to support the Wellington Hurricanes (a rugby team - we dont really have 'soccer' teams).. Surely you can see the flaw in that argument?

fwiw, I do go to games in London too, Palace mainly, but sorry my heart's with United.

 

[softybabe]

Most probably yes. Where do you live in the UK now?

I can vaguely understand it if you went to your first ever game at Old Trafford with your dad, but otherwise you don't always follow your father's precedents. I've not got a penchant for Farah slacks and bad soca for example - I support England at rugby rather than Wales (I played down South) and have a vague look at dad's Cardiff FC as a 2nd team. At the end of the day I was born, raised and played sports in London - the teams I support reflect that.

This is all a load of bollocks IMO. I was born and raised in Nigeria and only came to the UK about 16 yrs ago although i've supported Man U as long as i can remember (defo over 16yrs), my dad doesnt support Man u; both my bros support Chelsea even before coming into the UK.

It doesnt matter where u live, u can support any club that gives u a warm feeling when u c them play especially when u c them on ur home ground. My son and I went to Old Trafford to watch Man U V Inter even though we lost; being there was amazing enough!

So bollocks to local clubs bollocks....although i have a soft spot for Crystal Palace and Cardiff City (local enough as i spend a lot of time in Cardiff)

 

[tarannau]

Sorry.

if you look closely you can see that seal's actually wearing a gippo Man Utd scarf from Romford market.



Oi, and Kanda - if you can show me where I've said something like tthis on 'every' thread on the sports forum then I'd be much pleased. I think I may have said something similar on a handful of threads I've put on this forum, which in turn represent a minuscule proportion of threads on here. Blatant overexageration, blustering confidence and absolute innaccuracy - you're a child of Fergie after all.

Good to see some plastics wound up though. I can understand it if I was picking off people for minor issues, but are there actually any true Mancs supporting Utd on here?

 

[Kanda]

See, you do it again....

I know it's a handful of threads, it's still oh so fucking tiresome though isn't it??

We heard you the first time, any chance of a new more engaging argument? Maybe about the football itself instead of just trashing people for their origins

E2A: I'm not a child of Fergie, I'm a child of Ron Atkinson!!!

 

[softybabe]

K!
Having gained permission from Tarannau

can we now go back to singing the virtues of Man U?

United! United!! United!!!

 

[gabi]

Tarannau would make a great xenophobe I reckon..

 

[Mr Retro]

The Apache to start his United career with a brace tomorrow night, striking up an instant understandings with all of Giggsie, Scholesie, Nani-ie, Evraie and Ronaldo-ie.

 

[tarannau]

I doubt it, I'm a Welsh West Indian Chinese Amerindian Black mix-up. Xenophobia doesn't come easy to me, but respecting your roots does.

Still no Mancs on this thread then.

 

[gabi]

I doubt it, I'm a Welsh West Indian Chinese Amerindian Black mix-up. Xenophobia doesn't come easy to me, but respecting your roots does.

Still no Mancs on this thread then.

And who do u support?

 

[Kanda]

Still no Mancs on this thread then.

Well, you're not a Manc are you, but you're here to preach whatever it is you're trying to preach

 

[tarannau]

It's earlier in the thread genius boy.

If you look at the corporate sponsored and brand approval Man Utd guide to Tarannau...

 

[Kanda]

You're making me want to buy an MK Dons Season ticket... at least me Mam will get to see me every now and then