Manchester United 18/19: finishing second best

Discussion in 'football' started by chilango, May 26, 2018.

  1. Joe Reilly

    Joe Reilly Well-Known Member

    No. Sanchez wanted to leave Arsenal. City wanted him. But Utd wanted him more. City wanted Fred. But he also opted for Utd. City also wanted Jorginho but he opted for Chelsea..."is that the board's or the managers doing"?
     
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  2. Joe Reilly

    Joe Reilly Well-Known Member

    The problem is that City have spent more than triple that. Which is of course Mourinho's point.
     
  3. sealion

    sealion Splish splash splosh

    So why does he bother then? He takes his dough and then fucking moans, did he tell the glaziers at his interview that they're wasting there time? did he fuck. Most clubs spent tripple what burnley have, some were relegated while Burnley got european football, figure that one out. Explain how Leicester won the league?
     
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  4. Wilf

    Wilf Meeting few of his KPIs

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  5. sealion

    sealion Splish splash splosh

    For city
    Obviously not
    As i'd imagine Palace, Stoke and Watford would.
    So did Psg, he never mentioned joining united because of Mourinho, although he may well have done,,Fred reveals why he snubbed Man City move in favour of United | Buzz.ie
    I've seen plenty of reports on players turning down United in pre season
    He may have opted for a team that offered regular football, him playing for Sarri at Napoli may have influenced his decision.
    I admire how you defend your club, we all do it. If Mourinho was elsewhere i reckon you'd be calling him a cunt.
     
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  6. Joe Reilly

    Joe Reilly Well-Known Member

    City spent the best part of £300 mil just on defenders on the basis of the figures quoted. Which again points to City being a bottomless pit. And on that basis of that one department alone Utd needed to spend another £220 just to keep up. Ultimately, you can't expect to continue to make progress against opponents year on year if you are being out spent to that degree. Especially as the opponent in question are already PL champions and have won it a couple of more times in the previous five years, when Utd by contrast were struggling to get in the top 4. All that Mourinho did was to point that out. What a complete and utter wanker.
     
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  7. Dandred

    Dandred Mmmmm Beer!

    :D:D:D:D:D
     
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  8. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Richest club in the world, pleading poverty yet again :thumbs:
     
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  9. RD2003

    RD2003 Well-Known Member

    City might have wanted Sanchez but walked away when the sums involved became inflated to the absurd level United ended up paying. Same with Pogba. That United were prepared to do so is due to the scattergun approach to transfers taken under successive managers since 2013, which amounts to trying to stay relevant to the worldwide football audience when things are not going as well as they should be. Who would have thought that Ferguson's retirement would have revealed such an antiquated club structure and lack of real planning? Complacency is the other word for it. The Premier League was set up to be a Bundesliga-style, one-club league, and they thought they had it sewn up forever.

    It seems to have escaped the notice of some that City, unlike certain close competitors, have come nowhere near breaking the transfer record in recent years, have a wage structure in place (which the demands of Sanchez and Pogba and others they have withdrawn interest in this summer would have shattered), and are no longer funded directly by Abu Dhabi but by the financial model the latter's appointees have created.
     
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  10. big eejit

    big eejit She looks like Alan Gilzean

    Utd look awful. Don't think Mourinho undermining them has helped.
     
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  11. Dandred

    Dandred Mmmmm Beer!

    boom!
     
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  12. Dandred

    Dandred Mmmmm Beer!

    This is hilarious
     
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  13. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    Early days tbh.
     
  14. agricola

    agricola a genuine importer of owls

    That was one of the worst United performances I've ever seen, and I saw the game that got Moyes sacked as United manager.
     
  15. starfish

    starfish No dialogue. Just plot.

    Seagulls Seagulls :D
     
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  16. Dandred

    Dandred Mmmmm Beer!

  17. Wilf

    Wilf Meeting few of his KPIs

    Mourhino's words to the press:

    :facepalm:
     
  18. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    you can only fight a war on so many fronts.
     
  19. sealion

    sealion Splish splash splosh

    A Manchester United fan walks into a travel agent and asks if they have any recommendations for a nice weekend away. The travel agent replied, "Well you can't beat Brighton this time of year!”
     
  20. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    Been looking at the #MUFC posts on twitter :D

    25/1 for the PL title now :eek:
     
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  21. Wilf

    Wilf Meeting few of his KPIs

    We now officially live in a world where Jeremy Corbyn has more chance of becoming PM than Mourhino and United have of winning the title. :eek:
     
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  22. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

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  23. Dandred

    Dandred Mmmmm Beer!

  24. Joe Reilly

    Joe Reilly Well-Known Member

    Which is all fine and dandy from a commercial point of view. But might not look so clever if the fans start attacking Woodward at OT. 'A house divided' and so on.

    After all, what savvy sponsor over the longer term would want to to be seen to be associated with the killing off of a world class institution such as Man Utd purely for personal gain.
     
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  25. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    #moyesin :D
     
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  26. steveo87

    steveo87 Procrastinating for....a while

    I've been trying to find the quote of Moyes (on the BBC) saying that he could see United being top of the League 'until at least November' after the first game....

    Still a football genius....
     
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  27. happie chappie

    happie chappie Well-Known Member

    What

    The

    Fuck

    Man Utd: Jose Mourinho has 'no problem' with chief executive Ed Woodward

    FWIW here are my thoughts on the current situation.

    I couldn’t read the Times article as it was behind a paywall but undoubtedly Woodward (apparently a Liverpool fan) is looked upon more favourably than Jose, LVG and Moyes by the Glazers for the obvious financial reasons.

    He’s the man behind many of the current sponsorship deals. Apart from the embarrassment I don’t actually care if we have an “official tractor partner” as it helps subsidise my season ticket price which, by the way has remained frozen for several years (working out at £37 a game). So the idea that the Glazers have just been fleecing ordinary fans is actually wide or the mark.

    Did I want the Glazers? No, and as a shareholder I voted against the takeover. But people have short memories. The idea that Martin Edwards (and before him his dad Louis, purveyor of dodgy meat pies to the schoolchildren of Manchester) was some sort of Mother Theresa figure running United as a charity is frankly ludicrous.

    He took a shedload of money out of the club when it was floated and, let’s not forget, was happy to see it flogged off to Michael Knighton.

    By the way, he was also the man who changed the club crest from “Manchester United Football Club” to the widely disliked “Manchester United” - if my memory serves me rightly as he wanted to expand the United “brand” to other sports including an ill-fated basketball team.

    As for United transfer policies, according to some figures (which can vary according to what criteria are used) City have outspent United by a net £83 million. Anyone who thinks Fred and Dalot are going to close the 19 point gap we had with City last season is frankly deluded.

    Jose has been backed (or should I say indulged) in the transfer market to the hilt with Pogba, one of the world’s most expensive players, together with Matic, Sanchez, Lukaku, Ibrahimovic, Fred, Dalot and Mkhitaryan (remember him?) shipped in, not to mention Lindelof and Bailly, the two players widely blamed for Sunday’s shambolic performance against Brighton.

    Personally, I wouldn’t have given another penny to a manager who’s not guaranteed to be at the club at Christmas, let alone the end of the season, especially as he’s adopted a scattergun approach to transfers and has managed to piss off several players. His treatment of Martial is particularly disgusting.

    I’m not sure who’s on his infamous list of 5 transfer targets. It’s all well and good blaming the board if he doesn’t get them but how old are they, how much are they and, crucially, do they actually want to come to United? We need to wake up to the fact that we are no longer the automatic first choice for players looking to move clubs.

    So if he fucks off in a huff then great.

    Anyway, it’s not how much money a club spends on players but how they spend it. You can be given gazillions but if you spunk it up the wall on average overpriced players you’re no further forward. As a matter of interest Salah cost Liverpool £42 Million, Pogba and Lukaku both more than twice that. I know who I’d rather have bought.

    Talking of commercial revenues beware of what’s happening at Liverpool. Salah is becoming widely popular in the Middle East, bringing with it a plethora of marketing opportunities and with it the prospect of a big-money takeover of Man City sized proportions.

    If our situation isn’t addressed pronto things are going to get a lot worse for United.
     
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  28. Wilf

    Wilf Meeting few of his KPIs

    Of course the irony is Mourhino is just about the most successful manager in world football over the last 2 decades (though certainly not over the last 3 years or so). I just can't think of a scenario where he pulls this round, or even keeps them at the level they were last year.
     
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  29. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    Zidane has been quoted as 'interested' in the job :hmm:
     
  30. S☼I

    S☼I I don't want your poxy mint

    Oh Zizou. Insisting on making it impossible to still love you :(
     
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