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Manchester United 18/19: finishing second best

The39thStep

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I watched him play now and again for Porto last season .Fast , good crosser but not very good on one to ones and relatively inexperienced.Wasn't their first choice in that position but he would have made more appearances next season.Good price for both clubs.
 

Badgers

Mr Big Shrimp!
Not exactly a good vibe for the coming season:
Sombre José Mourinho looks a beaten man before the season even starts

Mourhino seems to be almost playing mind games against himself now.
Never been a Utd fan but it feels like Jose is tarnishing a great club. He is a relic of a manager but has a big chequebook and the media love giving him attention.

Utd are (were?) a club that all players aspire to plat for. But his odd/outdated mindgames plus his treatment of Utd players is really shoddy :(

He seems a long distance apart from managers like Guardiola, Pochettino, Klopp, etc...
 

Badgers

Mr Big Shrimp!
I was a big fan of Ferguson's Utd, coming of footballing age during their 90s/00s dominance, and I feel the same.

Aside from everything else, their games felt big, and exciting. Not so any more.
Fergie was often a bit of a cunt, but of his time. I used to rant about 'Fergie time' and he was hardly an angel, but his players mostly spoke highly of him.
 

Lord Camomile

Lemonade socialist
Fergie was often a bit of a cunt, but of his time. I used to rant about 'Fergie time' and he was hardly an angel, but his players mostly spoke highly of him.
Yeah, I wasn't exactly a huge fan of Ferguson himself, but did like the way his teams played.

Most of the time :hmm:
 

Wilf

Slouching towards Billingham
More of his bollocks here after the Liverpool defeat:

'In trouble': José Mourinho lashes out at Manchester United transfer process

Even if what he says is literally true, he's really honed his skills in making young players feel bad about themselves:
This is not our team ... We started the game with almost half of the players who are not even going to belong to our squad on August 9. They will not be here.

“This is not our squad. Reinforcements, you mean players that I would like to buy, that’s another thing, but this is not my squad. This is not even half my squad, or 30% of it. So don’t look to this.
:rolleyes:
 

happie chappie

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Looks like Jose is getting his excuses in early. Just wish he'd fuck off before he does any more damage. Bit controversial I know but I'd have sacked Jose before he spent (wasted) any more money and brought in Wenger. At least the football would be semi-decent.

All this "park the bus" bollocks. The game has moved on since Jose in his prime with innovative managers such as Guardiola, Pochettino and even Klopp now on the scene while he's stuck in his arrogant "how dare you question my methods" mindset. Just listen to his car crash of a press conference post-Sevillia.

I'm getting past "irritated" with him and moving rapidly on to "fucking annoyed".

The nightmare scenario, for me at least, is Liverpool winning the league. A distinct possibility. I'd have to leave the country.
 
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happie chappie

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Fergie was often a bit of a cunt, but of his time. I used to rant about 'Fergie time' and he was hardly an angel, but his players mostly spoke highly of him.
it's long been my view that you can get away with being a bit of a cunt as a manager if the team keeps winning and players accumulate trophies.

Or you can get away with it if the team isn't playing well but the manager is seen as a decent bloke who's doing his best under difficult circumstances - eg chronic injury problems, lack of funds etc.

The problem arises when the manager is a cunt who's been given shedloads of money, the team is under performing, the players are blamed and the fans are getting restless.

Ring any bells Jose?
 

happie chappie

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Yes - the football would be semi-decent at least. In any case, there was more to Wenger's relative failure in his latter years at Arsenal than an unwillingness to move with the times, lack of funds for transfers for example. Certainly something that Jose can't blame for the frequently shocking standard of football.

As I recall the main complaint from Arsenal fans was that the team wasn't winning trophies, not that the football was stale and boring.
 

Lord Camomile

Lemonade socialist
Aye, to be honest I was quite a fan of Wenger's, and partly admired him for sticking to his principles of playing attractive, passing football and objecting to the prices being paid for players. T'was just a wry acknowledgement of the parallels in your criticism of Mourinho and those of Wenger in his latter years.

As you say though, how this has played out on the pitch is very different for both managers.
 

Badgers

Mr Big Shrimp!
"Even Klopp" means such is my hatred of Liverpool, developed over 40+ year of watching Utd, that I'm loathe to credit them with anything whatsoever*.

*This isn't said in jest btw - just a statement of truth.
So no basis on his ability as a manager, just a hatred for another club?

Considered a job as a Sky pundit or footy writer for The S*n?
 

chilango

Neither Westminster nor Brussels....
I dont mind Mourinho, but it's clear things aren't working out quite right. I suspect he"s not being backed transfer wise. Not surprisingly given the lack of value in the market and the gap in quality we need to make up.

I forsee a fairly turgid start to the season followed by increasing fan and player unrest and Jose angles for an Xmas sacking and pay off with us languishing in around 6th by then.

But if not Mourinho then who?
 

The39thStep

Well-Known Member
I really really hope the rumours that Man Utd are buying William
I dont mind Mourinho, but it's clear things aren't working out quite right. I suspect he"s not being backed transfer wise. Not surprisingly given the lack of value in the market and the gap in quality we need to make up.

I forsee a fairly turgid start to the season followed by increasing fan and player unrest and Jose angles for an Xmas sacking and pay off with us languishing in around 6th by then.

But if not Mourinho then who?
Ryan Giggs
 
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