Discussion in 'football' started by chilango, Jun 21, 2017.
The last piece in the ever expanding jigsaw ?
Well, we could also do with a couple of FBs....
Arguably Valencia is the best right back in the division and Shaw if he has the appetite could well the best left back. These are not problem positions...at issue is why Mourinho insists on Pogba playing what is effectively a holding role. It's not his natural position, but lets say he does stick to it throughout, it can only result in a creative deficit (as his assists total illustrate) going forward.
Shaw has some way to go before he can even lick the boots of the best. Mendy, Baines, Alonso, Rose, hell - even Moreno this season has been superior to Shaw. Could he be the best? Maybe. Probably not.
At least a couple of them will be willing to chase down the ball.
Fucking hell, that challenge on McTominay!
Suffice to say if that had happened in rugby - effectively tackling a man in the air - it would have been a straight red. At OT yesterday? A drop ball.
Which of his dogs are you pointing the finger at?
Placed over the Flowers of Manchester banner on Munich memorial day. It only lasted minutes, & went down like a lead balloon. There are rumours it was a Paddy Power stunt based on an original & equally awful Arsenal banner - that could just be wishful thinking.
What's happened to refereeing at Old Trafford these past few years? It' just doesn't seem to be the same anymore.
Utd fans think Pogba was worth the money?
You only have to look at stats - with and without- to answer that. Spurs was the first game in I think 37 where he was on the losing side.
What's happened to referrering in the Premiership is the more pertinent question. Old school common sense has gone out the window. There wasn't a single commentator that didn't see the attack launched at McTominay as a slam dunk red card. Not to mention a penalty. Genuinely shocked that ref (about ten yards away) didn't even consider it a foul. But then had to stop play while he was treated on the pitch. So it begs the question as to what part of the defenders anatomy that felled the Utd youngster, did the ref in his wisdom, consider to be within the rules of the game. Especially as the ball was an absentee.
In the Liverpool game Kane is offside when the ball is kicked. It shouldn't really matter what Lovren did after that. Especially as his swipe at it was caused by him knowing Kane was beside him. Penalty. Wrong. Ali dived. Yellow. For me, although others differ, and although there was the most tentative contact, Lamela sought the contact and with face etched in pain collapsed on the floor. Ought to have been ignored or yellow. Instead it secured a draw. How can you how stop diving when blatant cynicism is rewarded like that.
The McTominay foul was a straight red , so was the Cardiff players assault on the young city lad in the FA Cup. The penalty decisions I can live with tbh especially when three former refs can't even make their minds up.
Sounds like a deserved lead
Good to see big Rom turn it on today with a goal and assist, did really well. Sanchez not really firing on all cylinders yet tho.
Chelsea outplayed totally outplayed United in the first half and unfortunately after playing Barcelona during the week were dragged down to Uniteds level in the second.
Good. It will be even better when Lukaku starts banging them in against big clubs.
Well he managed to scramble a goal against the Champions so that's a start.
And set one up, thanks Champs
United's main fanbase reacts to City's League Cup win.
Honestly don't think he will. He's never done it to date in his career.
It's quite hard to set your expectations as a United fan nowadays. Everything post ferguson was shit, this is the best they've had in 5 years. A Champions League quarter final or better (assuming they manage that) and runners up in the Prem (ditto) is objectively quite good. Trouble is, it's all still a bit... uninspiring.
what about that hat trick against United a few years back?
Lukaku is a very good foward imo, his scoring record speaks for itself.His record against top teams is poor mainly because he has played for teams who tbf arent top teams aside from a few appearances at Chelsea and less than one season against Man Utd. He is the main striker in a very expensive team and I've no doubt that he will score again against top six teams. No club pays £90 million for a striker who cannot do that.
He's been underwhelming this season, and iirc this is the first game for Utd where he's scored against a top 6 side. One swallow does not a summer make. Time will tell of course.
I wouldnt say he's been underwhelming although I would say that United have mainly been.He will get 20 goals this season. To be fair everyone has been in Man Citys shadow this season. Aside fom Man City the team that have impresssed me though more than any other this season is Liverpool, although they need to be a tad more consistent.
Will he? He's scored 13 in 28, less than a goal every other game. With ten games to go he'll have to step up to reach 20. Not impossible of course, but with the way Utd are playing of late I have my doubts.
And just to add to that, couldn't agree more that Liverpool are inconsistent. I think we were ninth early October
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