Discussion in 'football' started by chilango, Jun 21, 2017.
A mate of mine was at OT last night and said Benfica fans out sang the United supporters all night
A certain amount of fawning over City even on Red Cafe tonight.
Maybe as it should be...
Mourinho won't get the credit he will think he'll deserve for avoiding a repeat of last years 4-0 defeat.
Great game, always good to beat Arsenal, they should have had more goals but were facing the world's greatest keeper imo...seems like young Lingard has come into form too, a shame to be without Pogba for the derby though
Got to love the irony of Pogba wishing for City players to get injured and then getting sent off to miss the game against City.
It ended up being a horrible studs on the back of the knee, but it was a pretty bad decision. He flicked the ball which brought his toes up and the contact was instant. No chance to pull out of it. Not even a foul.
I don't know what you're talking about, when did that happen? I didn't have him down as a vindictive sort
Just googled this and read what he said...yes, a stupid thing to say, hope he grows up
One thing is for certain is wasn't violent conduct. It was Pogba's first giant stride which allowed him to win the ball and flick it on - all the photos show his eyes were either on the ball or looking up all the time - and his next giant step simply landed on Bellerin's leg. There was no give away adjustment by Pogba to make it happen. The unnatural position was actually Bellerin's. What did the think he was doing? This is the question that the 'definitely deliberate' expert pundits have yet to ponder.
Cant believe Utds bad luck . First of all an Arsenal pl;ayer puts his leg in an unatural position causing Pogba to be sent off and then the referee has the temerity to book a United player for diving when according to Mourinho it was a cast iron penalty.
anyway. today's game...
we were garbage.
Citeh deserved the win.
time to drop Lukaku
At least now no one can say that Lukaku lacks influence in the big games.
yup, two assists isnt bad
José Mourinho in post-match fracas over Manchester City’s ‘noisy’ celebrations
Trouble in the tunnel! Not like Mou to be a sore loser though?
Interesting to think where United go now. 'Officially' no longer in the title, prioritising champions league but still desperate to get 2nd in the Prem. Mourinho's position is safe and I can't see them spending much after Xmas. Back to 'rebuilding' over the Summer?
Utd with and without Pogba are different animals. So one glaring weakness in the squad is that there is no one that comes close to the polish and swagger that Pogba brings. Swashbuckling with, dogged but fairly pedestrian without.
Both Matic and Lukaku are visibly diminished when he is missing.
A natural left sided left-back is another. Shaw's outing the CL was a useful reminder of what he might bring to the left side of the attack, but there are questions over whether his head is right for a club like Utd. The number 10 role the creative/scoring hub - now that Mikitaryian is looking like going the same way as Kagawa - has to be addressed. Neither Mata or Lingard - too lightweight- are the long term answer. Which just goes to show how seriously good Rooney was in retrospect (if you crush his Utd career into a decade - it works out a 25 goal and upward of 12 assists per season, every season).
However there is now 're-building' required. Remember that Utd had four first choice players missing yesterday (Bailly, Jones, Fellani and Pogba), but even with them the problem positions do need to be addressed.
really tired of maureen always bitching and moaning. we lost to the better team. just admit it.
Yep. Didn't even see highlights, but it sounds like they were the significantly better side. I'm not sure his moaning even works as a way of consoling/motivating his own team, it's just shit. Admittedly, I prefer to him Pep, personality wise, but that's not saying much.
It reminded me, a little, of the CL Finals against Barca. I mean City weren't as good tbh, but there was that feeling of trying to somehow come up with a magic tactic to beat a better team.
And City were better, they are better.
Not by miles. But by enough.
I wasn't too upset by the result, nor by how United accounted for themselves. Annoying that that scrappy, soft goals gave them the win. Annoying that we almost (almost) did enough to grab something out of the game.
We're just not there, yet.
Almost had another at Arsenal. Simple lesson: 'stay in opposition box and out of your own'.
May be Mourinhos instructions tbf, he often had Drogba defending. However Lukaku is no Drogba.
City were significantly better in the first half. The second half was much more even. And considering the score was 1-1 at that point, it's not as if City eased off to protect a lead. City were overall the better team but the game could have gone either way. Rashford knew where the goal was and could have scored at any time. Young had a good game.
It is amazing how many people - managers, pundits and fans - think that he is. If he is reminiscent of anyone (at least in his time at Everton) it is Henry, in that he was always much more effective running at people or into space and often from one side rather than down the middle. As a holding the ball up sort of striker he was never all that, but Martinez (unforgivably given that he on occasion played in ways to suit Lukaku's strengths, especially the home game against Arsenal) and Koeman persisted in thinking that he was.
Yeah, for one he needs to start diving. Ashley Young can teach him some tricks.
what game were you watching?
Drogba was no Drogba when he first played under Mourinho either.
It has now been officially announced that the League Cup has reverted to being the Mickey Mouse Cup.
no wonder chelsea got rid of him. give jose one more season and if things dont improve, get rid.
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