Discussion in 'football' started by chilango, Jun 21, 2017.
Also featured on Radio 4 yesterday. Made me cringe
It's a game of two halves.
Are Man U fans ready for another Agueeeeerooo moment?
Come on United!
Still 3-2 to Utd with lots of daft 'scuffles.'
City should have been home and dry first half , they obviously wanted to rest some players for the CL game but I'm not sure that Guardiola appreciated how much it would have meant to City supporters to win the league against the other team in Manchester.
That was incredible, absolutely amazing turnaround, don't know what the hell Mourinho said at half time but it did the trick, Pogba suddenly came alive, tough luck City you'll have to wait a while longer, chuckle
I think Guardiola does know what that meant to the fans, but he's always going to be stubborn. And even so, the weakened team he put out should, as you say, have had the game won in the first half. They came out in the second thinking it was. The outcome was the fault of the players, nobody else.
Not amazing, just predictable (at least for some). One of those moments that makes you think football really is scripted. All those satellite TV subscriptions might start falling if the interest isn't maintained.
Anyway, the major disappointment today is conceding 3 to a team that doesn't really like scoring all that much.
Ah well, time to get properly pissed. Probably be seen later on other threads arguing vehemently in favour of stuff that I don't even agree with.
Game of two halves United poor/City good then Utd good/City poor but I must say that the referee in that game was consistently poor.No wonder there arent any English refs at the World Cup.
I have it on good authority that the City players were already on the champagne at half-time. Absolute pub football for the defending 2nd half.
Put a quid on when they were 2-0 down
Shame is was not a tenner. Still good call.
It was a cheeky quid
Bloke in the pub did the same, 52-1, he wouldn't say what he put on but he practically danced out of the pub at full time
Seemed insane odds at half-time
That's a better wager than the tenner I put on City at 2-2 and the fiver for the draw at 2-3 . Well done
Predictable? Hope you bunged a few quid on United winning then
Wish I'd put a grand on it tbh.
I knew what would happen today, especially when I saw the team we put out, although I expected a 0-1 or 0-2. As I said, it's almost like it's scripted.
It actually reminded me of last season's League Cup when Guardiola fielded an even weaker team, hoping that it would pay off in the CL a few days later. The outcome then was good for City, although it seems unlikely this time, and gave you a boost in clearing the way for a League Cup win in what was already shaping up to be another nothing season for you.
Guardiola looks a bit like Wiley Coyote. He tried to unsettle Utd and Pogba, and it rebounded horribly. By contrast for Mournho - forget the silverware - this was the first time when it looked like he could really be Fergie's heir.
PS: I wonder what odds you would have got before the Liverpool game for City to lose four (Spurs away on Sat) in a row?
Pogba must have his hairdresser on speed dial for when he wants to make a 'statement'.
Guardiola can be a fragile character. And his team can be too. The 20 minute melt down at Liverpool was followed by the lead being wiped in even less time at the eithad. Previous to Wednesday all the talk was of much Guardiola had improved players like Stones, Otamendi and Sterling. Well, it looked very much the same old 'flatter to deceive' Sterling in the first half on Saturday. Otamendi in a nightmare second half also looked like the Otamendi of old. And Stones? Stones wasn't even in the squad! The truth is the weakened team was picked by a weakened manager.
To be fair, Sterling has scored 21 goals across all competitions so far this season, which is 10 better than his previous best of any season. So while he may still have his off days, it's difficult to argue he hasn't improved under Pep.
City do create a vast amount of chances. So if your in and around the box some will inevitably fall your way. And they all count even if they skew of a shin or are badly sliced but still go in due to the scorer's proximity to the net. Last minute Bournemouth away.That is how I regard a typical Sterling goal.
Nine times out of ten all the heavy lifting has been done by others. Sane has a rack of assists. Sterling considerably less, which again suggests his reading of the game hasn't improved much since he was with Liverpool. And if he really had become twice the player under Guardiola it not likely he would have been considered surplus to requirements the other night.
Finally, if the improvement was as marked as the media have it, why then hasn't the end product transferred into other spheres. For England for instance his record is still 2 goals in 39 appearances. And none in the last 19. As Scholes remarked a couple of years ago, 'he can't even kick the ball'. And as his display on Saturday showed that basic technique is still lacking.
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