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JTG said:
OK, I know tange is pissed off with events at Bloomfield Road when they played Blackpool Mechanics last year so I'll let him off.
Was that the social club theft thing? That was Mechanics, not us. :confused:
 
tangerinedream said:
Yes I agree, and it is 'abu-ism' in another form. I grudgingly do applaud everything Fcum have done and wish them all the best, but can't help wishing Enfield or anyone else had regular press in the broadsheet newspapers. In essence, many non-league fans keep their clubs running with no reward but the way it's portrayed suggests Fcum are the first team to ever form at this level and are a bizarre exception... I think it is heartening that football at their level is getting a boost and if I'm still in Flaytwood when they catch up with them I'll go down and watch. But I'll sure as hell be shouting for Flaytwood....

:p

I can't help it JTG, I just can't. It's like asking you to follow the Ashton Gate Outlaws, I bet you couldn't...

I'll quantify this a bit more - Fleetwood Town have just made the FA cup first round for the first time since the club was reformed in 1997. Now, I'm no expert on the codheads, but I am willing to suggest the story of the resurection of Fleetwood is just as interesting and heartwarming as FCUM's , but no-one gives a toss because they havn't got the glamour connection. They got a 4 figure crowd in the last round, something which is actually pretty tremendous for a game with Histon, where the biggest star is Jamie Milligan and the only hype comes from the Fleetwood evening gazette. My problem is not with Fcum fans, it's with people wishing them success just because they broke away from Man Utd. - Well, there are plenty of other teams who deserve that success and have worked a hell of a lot longer, and in the face of a lot less interest to keep their clubs going.
I do admire FCUM, but I also admire a lot of non-league sides as much, if not more, and I'm not going to start rooting for FCUM over them, on the grounds of who they are sticking two fingers up at. It's actually got very little if anything to do with what went on at Bloomers last year.
 
Maybe someone at Fleetwood or those other non-league sides should be telling the press about their success. The media don't come looking for a story at this level, but if you tell 'em, they'll often print it. :)
 
moose said:
Maybe someone at Fleetwood or those other non-league sides should be telling the press about their success. The media don't come looking for a story at this level, but if you tell 'em, they'll often print it. :)

Why are the media obsessed with Fcum and Wimbledon, but don't care about Enfield? - The story at Fcum is not what you've done, which is admirable I agree, but the fact it has something to do with Manchester United.

Though, perhaps you're right...

:)

gonna stop harping on now with my knee jerk abuism and wish you luck for the season, but not as much as the mighty Collieries:cool:

or of course, the Laburnam Rovers...
 
Why are the media obsessed with Fcum and Wimbledon, but don't care about Enfield?
It is partly because us and Wimbledon were formed from higher-profile clubs, but in FC's case, it's also due in large part to the fact a lot of the people involved have had extensive experience with the media and made many contacts in the press over the years, during the failed Murdoch takeover bid and with IMUSA/SU more recently. Small clubs need a very vocal press officer to trumpet their achievements in the same way the big clubs do.
 
tangerinedream said:
Even when a nipper:eek:

As I remember there was a free school bus. I moved away when I was 5, so don't remember the pubs. Well, I know the one's you refer too, but didn't grow up to drinking age their so don't. Drove up their a few years back and went out onto the moss over the railway line and loved it.
I used to love walking onto the moss with mum and dad to watch the trains as a kid. You'd feel the ground shake as they went past !! Bit of a family tradition my mum used to do the same with her parents when she was a nipper too

My grandparents lived in green avenue, just the other side of the east lancs where the bridgewater passes under it.
 
moose said:
It is partly because us and Wimbledon were formed from higher-profile clubs, but in FC's case, it's also due in large part to the fact a lot of the people involved have had extensive experience with the media and made many contacts in the press over the years, during the failed Murdoch takeover bid and with IMUSA/SU more recently. Small clubs need a very vocal press officer to trumpet their achievements in the same way the big clubs do.

You take my point though, about non-league clubs in general often only existing for the reasons fcum are in existence. The contacts you list above simply couldn't have existed for someone connected with say, Fleetwood Town or whoever. It's fascinating to look at how recently a lot of non-league teams were formed, such is the fragility of their existence. It seems to me, that whenever Fcum play, they are the story, not the opposition. Hopefully, some of the exposure they are given will pay off for the other teams in the league. If you remove your gates from the division has their been any upturn in interest?
 
I agree with you absolutely that other teams should get as much, if not more, interest as FCUM, particularly the long-standing ones, and those who follow different constitutional models. I can't help thinking a lot of the interest we get is from people waiting for us to fail ;)

I also agree with your point about us being the story wherever we play. In some cases, that's because press local to our opposition print stories to try to drum up extra supporters for the home side.

I'm trying to find the answer to your question on attendances, but NWCFL seem to have removed archive info from their site. I'll let you know.
 
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