manchester demo will u be going ?

[In Bloom]

The above, leads to this;

Orgs like the AF (and apologies if you are not in the AF) and other ultra leftists are wrong if they think the revolutionary process will be helped by them staying and theorising in their pure sects, for themselves alone, endlessly recycling the same boring bollox...

And individuals like you are deluded if you truly believe that there is anything anarchists can do to "help the revolutionary process" as professional leftists whose action is divorced from everyday life.

To rupture from the ordinary, you have to begin with the ordinary.

 

[The Black Hand]

Leaving aside the fact that despite your protestations, what you are saying here is the very essence of vanguardism (the most "advanced" section of the class must take the lead and show the plebs the way forward), not a single revolutionary situation in history has just arised as a result of conscious anarchist activity, millitants never have the initiative when a revolutionary situation begins. That's a simple matter of fact.

That revolutionaries need to organise to push things forward and put their argument across is not under dispute, but we are not in a revolutionary situation, in case it has escaped your attention, men make history, but not in circumstances of their own choosing (remember that one).

Actually its not 'vanguardism', its basic AF theory against its own organisation!!
'The leadership of ideas' remember...

Leaving aside the sexism of your attempt at a Marx paraphrase (where from? a question for in bllom only) I think that anarchists should practice more. EG. You say you Organise, but what do you organise? Yourselves. There is very little solidarity practiced on a movement level, its as if the movement is scared to opening up itself up (to let loose their younger members) to talk to other class struggle anarchists. There is no conference, no real debate, no research planning. Nothing. Its pitifull don't you agree?

You said that 'militants never have the agenda' and thats why I said 'seize the initiative from the class enemy' - and how best do you think preparing for this situation is? Its certainly isn't sitting in a conservative rut like you appear to believe, its a question of praxis, knowledge, experience and practical organisation beyond orthodox forms that can prepare us for these exceptional times. Cos those only skilled in the mundane in mind and practice are the opposite of what is necessary in those dynamic revolutionary situations - and these situations are dynamic, that is why people of exceptional energy, vision, and spirit become noticed by history. It was even noticeable during the English civil war!! So why 'revolutionary minorities' think being obscure and mundane is GOOD i don't know.

 

[The Black Hand]

To rupture from the ordinary, you have to begin with the ordinary.

This contradicts your earlier observation that 'no anarchist revolutionary minority has started the revolutionary process'... So it doesn't matter whether your practice is ordinary or dynamic according to you?!!

If it does matter, why does it matter?

 

[DUMBO.66]

it was pretty good, but the mission for a London protest is worth it

 

[The Black Hand]

it was pretty good, but the mission for a London protest is worth it

Could you explain?