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Man stabbed to death on bus in Croydon

JHE said:
The BBC has omitted to mention that the suspects are black and that the white victim's father has claimed that it was a racist attack.

They might be avoiding labeling it as a race attack at the request of the police. Early in investigations it's hard to get the police to say anything conclusive, as that could limit the amount of information they get back and lead to what ends up being used as evidence being challenged in court. Ie, a barrister could say, how can you say this was a robbery when on date x you told the BBC it was a black-on-white race attack?

But you're right, it's odd they don't say the suspects are black.
 
This reminds me of the Chip Attack guy story just after 7/7. Some guy, out with his missus on a night bus, asks some bloke to stop throwing chips at people in front of him on the bus, get's stabbed about 20 times by the guy throwing the chips.

Shat me up WAY more than the bombs going off, cos it's so much more likely to happen. Same with this story...
 
kyser_soze said:
This reminds me of the Chip Attack guy story just after 7/7. Some guy, out with his missus on a night bus, asks some bloke to stop throwing chips at people in front of him on the bus, get's stabbed about 20 times by the guy throwing the chips.

Shat me up WAY more than the bombs going off, cos it's so much more likely to happen. Same with this story...

that happened near where i work and was :(

and this one happened near where i live and is also :(

there are some fucking wrong un's round here. some little fucker egged me in the face from a car the other night while i was sat at a bus stop near my house.

pretty gutted i didn't get his reg plate or egg related revenge would be mine.

i love living near New Addington
 
The rumours, young guy accosted by two blacks wantingn his money and phone, altercation, knives, stabbing, two black guys run off towards the Forum, police closed off Gravel Hill, Selsdon Road both ways at Addington bottem..... I tried to use Gravel Hill ( going towards Addington) at 4,30 in the morning and it was closed off and the PC on duty wouldn't say why...

But limited publicity, no mention of the racial issues, general feeling, if it was reversed, national press would have been over it like a rash.

The two guys are due in Croydon Court during the week.
 
According to a post on the Crystal Palace bbs (www.cpfc.org - thread is called 'stabbing at Gravel Hill' on General Chit Chat), the victim - Billy Ward - was, "found guilty in Sept 2005 of being involved in a hate campaign against a family of Somali immigrants. He was convicted of setting fire to a car and intimidating a female witness. He denied both charges".

I can't find an authoritative source though, but the post was a couple of days ago and it's not been challenged (and there seem to be people on there who knew him or his family).

Nothing justifies this kind of random stupid killing but if the above is true, it puts a different slant on the incident.
 
Much discussion on this here:


http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...mmented.leave_your_tributes_to_billy_ward.php

including "Well hopefully one day BNP will get in and we can dismantle this failure of a multi-cultural society" :(

and..

"In the past ten years Croydon under Labour control have allowed the transfer of thousands of former Brixton residents into Croydon housing and schools,resulting in crime increasing 1000%."

and..

"watch out thornton heath. rip Bill
revenge will be sweet believe me its gonna happen coming your way u black barstards"

.... let's just say it's a heated debate!!! :eek:
 
gaijingirl said:
Much discussion on this here:


http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...mmented.leave_your_tributes_to_billy_ward.php

including "Well hopefully one day BNP will get in and we can dismantle this failure of a multi-cultural society" :(

and..

"In the past ten years Croydon under Labour control have allowed the transfer of thousands of former Brixton residents into Croydon housing and schools,resulting in crime increasing 1000%."

and..

"watch out thornton heath. rip Bill
revenge will be sweet believe me its gonna happen coming your way u black barstards"

.... let's just say it's a heated debate!!! :eek:


Don't forget that the majority of the country aren't like that.

I'd say 99% of people don't think like that - you just get that vocal 1% who make the loudest noise.
 
yeah... it's probably quite disrespectful but I did find it slightly amusing that one after another both girls posted how they would miss their "cuddles"... and then the penny dropped.. :o
 
gaijingirl said:
yeah... it's probably quite disrespectful but I did find it slightly amusing that one after another both girls posted how they would miss their "cuddles"... and then the penny dropped.. :o


I was going to put a laughing smiley but thought people thought I was being insensitive but it was quite funny the way the other girl just "dropped" it in that she'd been seeing him :D
 
Minnie_the_Minx said:
I think I worry more about being puked on by someone who's had one two many.

On the tube late at night, I tend to stand further back from the edge of the platform - in case some drunk accidentally falls into me and I end up under a train :o


last i was in london i was sent off home with a proper puking on
 
co-op said:
According to a post on the Crystal Palace bbs (www.cpfc.org - thread is called 'stabbing at Gravel Hill' on General Chit Chat), the victim - Billy Ward - was, "found guilty in Sept 2005 of being involved in a hate campaign against a family of Somali immigrants. He was convicted of setting fire to a car and intimidating a female witness. He denied both charges".

I can't find an authoritative source though, but the post was a couple of days ago and it's not been challenged (and there seem to be people on there who knew him or his family).

Nothing justifies this kind of random stupid killing but if the above is true, it puts a different slant on the incident.


There was no evidence at all. It was a stitch up, the police "knew " he did it but in the absence of evidence fitted him up.
 
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