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Man films police, police get annoyed

Attica said:
They have just given nearly 300 orgs the right to check ALL your phone records and they do not have to say why. THis is an outrageous affront to and very dangerous for civil liberty.
It would be if it were true.

But it isn't. :rolleyes:
 
Attica said:
I do not trust police apologists, such so until I see evidence I will believe the source I have read thanks.
Once a prick, always a prick. Why worry about the true situation when you can go round scaring people with imaginary bollocks.... :rolleyes:
 
detective-boy said:
I think it will only be because of increased pressure for police accountability.

Every officer I have spoken to about the pilots has serious doubts about whether it is worth the massive expense ... not in terms of the kit but in terms of storing, documenting and managing the recorded footage in an evidentially sound way ...

If you want to increase bureaucracy and keep even more officers off the street, this is a good way to start ...

Do you think? I was thinking that maybe when people are confronted with a video of their shockingly bad behaviour (I am thinking especially of the chucking out time fights, rowdiness, assaulting police, etc) that more of them would plead guilty, saving time and effort.

When someone is stood in the dock months later, with his suit and tie on, looking as respectable as you like, denying that he was behaving badly, maybe, with a slight jack-the-lad grin at the magistrates/judge, admitting that he had "had a couple of drinks", a video of him effing, blinding, throwing punches and requiring four cops to throw him in the back of the police van would show what really went on.

Giles..
 
Giles said:
Do you think? I was thinking that maybe when people are confronted with a video of their shockingly bad behaviour (I am thinking especially of the chucking out time fights, rowdiness, assaulting police, etc) that more of them would plead guilty, saving time and effort.
It certainly has that effect ... but the upside of reduced contested cases will be way, way, way exceeded by the bureaucracy of filing and documenting billions of hours of useless footage.
 
detective-boy said:
Once a prick, always a prick. Why worry about the true situation when you can go round scaring people with imaginary bollocks.... :rolleyes:

You are the biggest prick around here - you police apologist twat you.:mad:
 
Attica said:
You are the biggest prick around here - you police apologist twat you.:mad:
Trying to educate the ignorant (that's you!) about what law, practice and procedure actually is is not being a "police apologist".

Clearly English Language is another area in which you need remedial classes ... :rolleyes:
 
Ignoring the willy-waving arsehole for a second, has anyone got a url for the changes that have come in/are about to come in regarding phone call data retention ?

I've checked out a couple of IT sites, Risks & the Beeb but can only locate references to the proposed EU wide legislation the commission is pushing hard for, and not the UK specific stuff.
 
detective-boy said:
Trying to educate the ignorant (that's you!) about what law, practice and procedure actually is is not being a "police apologist".

Clearly English Language is another area in which you need remedial classes ... :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: No. I know you are a police apologist. SImple as. Twat.:p :D
 
detective-boy said:
Police training today ... :( :( :rolleyes: I hope he complained.

That said, it was a little rich for the film maker to claim he was "Minding his own business" (when, in fact, he was minding the business of the kid getting stopped) and that his "privacy is being invaded" (when he wsas invading the privacy of the kid getting stopped).

He's also not the sharpest knife in the box, asking for their names as they walked off when he had their badges visible for three minutes right in front of him ...

(For the record, although filming the police is not an offence in itself, there may be situations in which it is - if it is likely to cause a breach of the peace (e.g. if the kid getting stopped had gone off on one because of it); if it is obstructing officers in the execution of their duty (e.g. filming surveillance officers and giving away their operation) or if it is some sort of public nuisance (e.g. extreme behaviour which is preventing a normal police / public relationship). At least the first and last of these could be committed in a private place as well as in a public place.)
Oh fuck off. They were a pair of woodentop morons attempting to throw their weight around; and, came unstuck. If he’s not the sharpest knife in the box; and your chums couldn’t deal with him, in a dignified way – well, what hope for society?
 
Urbanblues said:
And the woodentops on film...
What? The ones I said "Police training today ... :( :( :rolleyes: I hope he complained." about.

Exactly which part of that was the apologist bit, eh? You really are congenitally incapable of reading the bits of my posts which don't fit with your preconceived ideas, aren't you? :rolleyes:
 
Urbanblues said:
Oh fuck off. They were a pair of woodentop morons attempting to throw their weight around; and, came unstuck. If he’s not the sharpest knife in the box; and your chums couldn’t deal with him, in a dignified way – well, what hope for society?

Well said that man.
 
The Cauldron said:
Morons with video cameras and normal cameras should keep the lenses on things they hace permission to film.

You mean we have to have permission to do things, rather than assuming that we can do something unless it is expressly prohibited? There lies totalitarianism.

I got badly hassled by Kiwi flange when I filmed them hassling some bloke. Given that I really wanted to leave the country the next day I just complied with deleting the file etc. NZ police are complete cocksuckers anyway.
 
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