Making use of public space

[free spirit]

In relation to "public spaces" if it is registered common "public space", it is down to the people who own the space.
Where I live "we" as in we the residents own, two "public spaces" and basically with mutual agreement, "we" can basically run any event we damned well like on it. (Alcohol licencing is not an issue as there are licenced premises alongside both "public spaces".

erm, well unless the licensed premises cover the common land under their alcohol and entertainments licenses, or the local parish council (or equivalent) held a seperate permanent license for the land, then technically you would still need a license (or temporary entertainment notice) for any events held on the land.

The point I am trying to make is in some cases "members of the public" are the ones who "own" the land. If it is "their" event, there won't be any complaints.
If people try and make a bloody nuisance over three nights with a 28 speaker sound system that is very much a different issue to using commonly owned land for an civilised family event.

you're partially right in that a small scale family event run by local people for the local villagers on common land, is much less likely to generate complaints, it does still legally need to be licensed - well probably to be granted a temporary entertainment notice.

 

[zenie]

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[Paulie Tandoori]

The point I am trying to make is in some cases "members of the public" are the ones who "own" the land. If it is "their" event, there won't be any complaints.
If people try and make a bloody nuisance over three nights with a 28 speaker sound system that is very much a different issue to using commonly owned land for an civilised family event.

Yes, but the OP said quite explicitly that:

I just wondering if a group of people had in mind to have a street carnival, without asking permission from the authorities do you know of anyone that may be willing to give some advice and tips on organizing such an event, this is about non profit and encouraging people to take back spaces that were once called public space.

so offering advice based on law applicable to land owned by someone isn't terribly helpful or relevant, que?

 

[free spirit]

Yes, but the OP said quite explicitly that:so offering advice based on law applicable to land owned by someone isn't terribly helpful or relevant, que?

not just that, but the advice given for people who own the land is also wrong and liable for both the event organisers and land owners to face prosecution with a maximum sentence of 6 months in prison, and £20,000 fine under the licensing act 2003.

(1) A person commits an offence if—
(a) he carries on or attempts to carry on a licensable activity on or from any premises otherwise than under and in accordance with an authorisation, or
(b) he knowingly allows a licensable activity to be so carried on.

btw - to soloqi, you should be aware that this is the legal offence you could well be committing (depending on what exactly it is you intend to do, I'm still a bit unclear). In reality you should be able to get away with a caution unless something had gone badly wrong, but the maximum penalty is £20k fine and 6 months in prison.

A TEN costs £21 ish, and takes 10 days to process...

 

[chymaera]

Yes, but the OP said quite explicitly that:so offering advice based on law applicable to land owned by someone isn't terribly helpful or relevant, que?

It depends where you wish to hold the event. Where I live, (and it is not unique in this respect), two areas of land are "owned" by the residents.
Thus if you wish to hold an event in "your" area you need to determine the exact status of any "common" land.

 

[free spirit]

chymera, just to give the OP a clear picture of the advice being given, could you please clarify whether you now agree that there is no 250 limit 'built into current licensing' legislation, or 11.30pm cut off point for noise pollution.

if you do not accept this, then please have the courtesy to post up a link to the relevant legislation / anything that supports your view. I've done the research and given the links to back up my advice, i'd appreciate it if you would do the same (apart from anything else, if there is a 250 limit somewhere in the legislation i'd like to know about it as it could be very useful information).

thanks