Major incident: Coldharbour Lane/Gresham Road

[Kanda]

I am so fucking fed up with this fucking shit and these fucking cunting kids and their pointless fucking fights.

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But you'll defend Brixton as much as you can, make excuses for it, as I would too....

But if some others say they are unhappy, they're told just to suck it up etc... (and no, I won't search and quote people, got a big day tomorrow and need to go to bed)

 

[RaverDrew]

Going by the time that this thread was started, I got off a bus right there at around that time and didn't see/hear a thing.

I always miss all the action

 

[Kanda]

People might say that but I'm sure it's not in the sense of condoning it though

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=296163

k...

Not condoning but excusing it......

 

[colacubes]

yup.



well said.

i feel safer here than anywhere else i've ever lived.

And I think we're fortunate enough that we know our neighbours and the local community well and people do genuinely look out for each other. It so outweighs the negatives that it makes it worthwhile.

I can honestly say that I've loved nowhere I've ever lived like here. And that actually makes the ratio of my pissed offness when this happens even greater

 

[Pip]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=296163

k...

Not condoning but excusing it......

So some kids run around and it's pointed out it's hyped teenagers and happens every year. Someone gets shot?, people walking past get beaten and everything goes on fuck up, and you see it as a valid avenue to point out some supposed hypocrisy?

 

[colacubes]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=296163

k...

Not condoning but excusing it......

I think you're being unfair. I totally see and have experienced what Mrs M and others said about gangs of lads at funfairs and the like in nice towns in Surrey. Yes, there's some gallows humour there but I don't think anyone's excusing it.

 

[Kanda]

No Pip, I'm saying it's getting worse and I care about it. Cos it pisses me off, cos I want to live here, I want to have kids here and settle here. I get pissed off when told by people that this is normal, cos it's not. Not at all.

 

[editor]

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But you'll defend Brixton as much as you can, make excuses for it, as I would too....

But if some others say they are unhappy, they're told just to suck it up etc... (and no, I won't search and quote people, got a big day tomorrow and need to go to bed)

Mate: it's really not a pretty sight watching you trying to score points here.

I've no idea what you're on about and - like I've already said - I don't think this is the thread for you to be pursuing this.

I have never made 'excuses' for someone being shot or for someone being randomly beaten up in the street. It disgusts me.

 

[Pip]

Edit: it's past my bedtime.

 

[Kanda]

I complete understand what you say about it worrying you and pissing you off, but like I said, I don't think it's exactly the place to bring up an old argument

It's not an old argument though, it was last weekend. I understand your solidarity to your mum but...

 

[Kanda]

Mate: it's really not a pretty sight watching you trying to score points here.

I'm not scoring points... and you know that.

 

[Pip]

It's not an old argument though, it was last weekend. I understand your solidarity to your mum but...

It's not solidarity to my mum, I commented before you posted that link or elaborated on what you were talking about. The point is, it's insensitive and in bad taste to bring it up on a thread like this, that's really all there is to it.

 

[Kanda]

It's not solidarity to my mum, I commented before you posted that link or elaborated on what you were talking about. The point is, it's crass to bring it up on a thread like this, that's really all there is to it.

It's not crass at all. It's about what's going on in Brixton. Now.

You live in Stockwell/clapham.. what would you know?

 

[Pip]

It's not crass at all. It's about what's going on in Brixton. Now.

So you believe that people get shot (maybe) and passers by get badly beaten up every day in Brixton?

 

[Kanda]

So you believe that people get shot (maybe) and passers by get badly beaten up every day in Brixton?

Beaten up.. regularly.

Shot, no.

 

[Pip]

You live in Stockwell/clapham.. what would you know?

I grew up on that estate and my friends and family all live there. For all I know it could be my brother who got beaten up "which happens all the time".

I know you say that in jest, but I'm not really full of gaiety right now.

 

[clandestino]

I was attacked by a random man in the street at the end of last year yet I still love this area for it's sense of community, neighbourliness and friendliness. I couldn't have been more supported when it happened to me.

I'm shocked and very sorry to hear this. I've lived in Brixton for 16 years, and I've experienced one attempted mugging in that time (which ended with the wannabe mugger informing me that I was "fucking mental", as he ran off down the street ) - pretty much par for the course for city life. So I guess I feel like Brixton is safe, by and large, because of my experience.

We had a show at Jamm tonight and one of the bands asked if it would be OK to walk via the backstreets (on the road that goes past the Grosvenor I think) to Stockwell tube. And I said I thought it'd be fine, but if they were really worried to walk Brixton Road-Stockwell Road. I said I'd walk the backstreets, and they seemed reassured by that and looked like they were going to go that way. And I'm sure they were fine. But now I feel like I was slightly irresponsible with my advice. I'm shocked by Nipsla's post and by the Editor's original post. It sounds stupid, but that kind of stuff just doesn't happen in the Brixton I live in...

 

[Kanda]

I know you say that in jest, but I'm not really full of gaiety right now.

Nor am I. My mate just got beat fuck out of the other week on a bus, outside Tile City or whatever it's called, he is gonna have to wear a plastic face mask for a month.

I got threatened with a knife,

Another friend gave all his money over on CHL...

So?

 

[editor]

I grew up on that estate and my friends and family all live there. For all I know it could be my brother who got beaten up "which happens all the time".

That's what was so awful - and different - about tonight's attack. It could have been me caught up in it. Or anyone.

The guy attacked a guy getting out of his car for no reason and then kicked his window in, and then violently started on some poor bloke who was just walking home, kicking him as he fell to the ground, while a mob ran all around.

I live in what is supposed to be one of Brixton's roughest areas, but thankfully random, wild violence like this is very rare.

 

[Kanda]

I live in what is supposed to be one of Brixton's roughest areas, but thankfully random, wild violence like this is very rare.

The random violence thing is spreadin out unfortunately

Seen a lot around NPR recently.

 

[editor]

There's a cop with a sniffer dog rummaging around outside now which suggests they're looking for a weapon of some description.

 

[colacubes]

There's a cop with a sniffer dog rummaging around outside now which suggests they're looking for a weapon of some description.

 

[ajdown]

Just because "this sort of thing" happens doesn't mean it's acceptable. Any time or any place.

 

[pboi]

fucking peasants.

the desperation of it all is this all feels impossible to change

 

[xsunnysuex]

Wow. I heard what sounded like either fireworks or gunfire just as I went to bed. My other half said straight away "That's not fireworks" Then heard loads of shouting. But we didn't hear any sirens, so we went to sleep. Sounds nasty. Hope those caught up in in recover soon. And I have to say I've lived in Brixton for 14ys. And the only trouble I've had is a breakin a few years ago. I feel quite safe walking the streets.

 

[Relahni]

Sounds rough as fuck round there. I don't know how you do it. You were beaten up randomly round there and then watched them beat more people up.Fuck that.

The whole thing about 'not having any bother in brixton' is bollox really. Sure, I lived there and never had any bother. But got pissed off when mates came round mine complaining of getting mugged or beaten up. Also saw a lot of shit.

Seeing a gun fight is not the best. Only seen it happen once.

 

[Pickman's model]

At the Country Show a massive crowd of kids met up for a ruck, which does seem to take place every year. Obviously that's can't be condoned, but AFAIK nothing serious happened.

Here, there is disgusting violence on editor's doorstep, potentially involving the friends and family of posters, random attacks on passers by and possibly a shooting.

It's a bit crass to dismiss it as just something that happens.

tbh much the same thing seems to happen at the finchley carnival - certainly did in years gone by. so it's not just brixton.

 

[Pickman's model]

Wow. I heard what sounded like either fireworks or gunfire just as I went to bed. My other half said straight away "That's not fireworks" Then heard loads of shouting. But we didn't hear any sirens, so we went to sleep. Sounds nasty. Hope those caught up in in recover soon. And I have to say I've lived in Brixton for 14ys. And the only trouble I've had is a breakin a few years ago. I feel quite safe walking the streets.

i remember a story in the hackney gazette from some years back about how there were loads of gun fights the police never got to hear about.

so a lack of sirens is not necessarily the same thing as no gunfight

 

[Pickman's model]

There's a cop with a sniffer dog rummaging around outside now which suggests they're looking for a weapon of some description.

or drugs

 

[Relahni]

tbh much the same thing seems to happen at the finchley carnival - certainly did in years gone by. so it's not just brixton.

Happened at southwark park too.

Why doesn't it happen at Glastonbury?