Main line to the west out for weeks as tracks washed away at Dawlish

Discussion in 'transport' started by editor, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  2. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    R4 described the tracks as 'blowing in the breeze' but until now I'd not seen any pictures
  3. stupid dogbot

    stupid dogbot Haughty and Superior

    Wow. I'm really glad I don't live in Devon any more. But I am supposed to be going to Newton Abbot for a wedding on Saturday! :eek:
  4. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

    further :eek:
  5. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    There was an interview on the radio earlier with someone who lives in one of those houses. They've been told the whole terrace is unsafe and will have to be demolished :(
  6. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Check this out:

  7. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I was thinking that those houses must already be seriously undermined.
  8. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

  9. neonwilderness

    neonwilderness What would Badgers do?

    I think they might be being slightly optimistic there. This landslip in Yorkshire took about six months to repair:

  10. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

  11. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Free the Sepsis Six!

    Oh lordy :eek:

    Love taking a train along there :(
  12. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Video update with some dramatic scenes

  13. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Be a while before we see scenes as lovely as this again at Dawlish (click past the dull diesel bit to get the majesty of the steam trains!)

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  14. SikhWarrioR

    SikhWarrioR And the Worms ate into his brain

    Were'nt there proposals to reroute the coastal Dawlish section of track inland i seem to remember ??:confused:
  15. Roadkill

    Roadkill Well-Known Member

    That line through Dawlish is a lovely journey, and a real shame it's so badly damaged. Economically it's serious for the south-west too, since Cornwall and west Devon are cut off until it's fixed. There might be one good thing come out of it, though, in that it's got people talking seriously about trying to reopen the inland route, which in the long run makes a lot of sense.

    It did, and it was a real nuisance since it severed the Doncaster-Goole-Hull line. It was probably an easier engineering job than restoring Dawlish too...
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  16. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Nothing serious or costed. The pre-Beeching alternate inland route via Moretonhampstead is half in operation for freight and half built on for a bypass. Building an entirely new route would cost far more financial and political capital than any recent government has to spend.
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  17. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus


    Moretonhampstead was a lovely station.

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  18. BlueSquareThing

    BlueSquareThing With chips

    Might be easier though - it's "just" the stone track bed that they'll need to rebuild - I guess that there's likely to be less problems with deeper subsidence than the Yorkshire one.
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  19. Quartz

    Quartz Eclectic contrarian plebeian

    Well, maybe the Tories are looking for an acceptable excuse to get out of HS2. :D
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  20. davesgcr

    davesgcr Reading books

    Do not link HS2 with the maintenance of the existing railway please let's say £40M to repair and protect this bit of line - (wearing his railway cap) - HMG can cover that , no issue. May even spur some economic things - (like local work and quarried stone) - and before people go off on a "lets rebuild the long closed diversion routes via the Teign Valley or Okehampton" - the cost would be £100m+'s. It is off season - there is no perishable freight - buses can manage for a while - the engineers can get stuck in. (I suspect they will need a breakwater of sorts - hard rock brought in by sea no doubt ..) - not good to lose a rail line - but it can be reinstated. Railway staff are expert at dealing with these things.

    BR fixed the ECML north of Newcastle in 1980 in about 6 weeks - following a landslide / tunnel collapse - so it can be done. Lot of hard work though.
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  21. davesgcr

    davesgcr Reading books

    Spot on - best repair the existing line and make it as tough as can be done :thumbs: (the "diversion" was a bit bucolic and lacking in capacity to say the least)
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  22. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow Sweetcorn, Seagulls and Wasps are Brilliant!

    I hope they get it sorted quickly for the sake of those living in the SW. A reminder, if one were needed, of the sheer power of the sea. It always amazes me that the lines is that close to the sea though.

    I used to love going on a section of the ECML between Newcastle and Edinburgh (somewhere around Berwick I think) where the line ran quite close to the cliff edge over the North Sea - an impressive view on a lovely day, if a bit unnerving!
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  23. Geri

    Geri wasn't born to follow

    Earlier on I was wishing I was in Newquay. Now I'm glad I'm not!

    This weather is taking the piss now.
  24. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad heckling from the back!

    There have been some other coastal rail routes the weather has taken out - I'm thinking of the area around Llanbedr / Barmouth and on the Cumbrian Coast.
    It is going to be rough again at the weekend, which will - almost certainly - mean more damage. Proper repairs will take time and resources.
  25. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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  26. Chz

    Chz Stark Raving Sane

    It all depends on the underlying ground, of course. More likely to be solid further down in Devon and Cornwall.

    Then there's also the priority of things to consider. There's a lot of rail links in Yorkshire, plus it's not high on Network Rail's list of big priorities. Think about the landslip they've got on the Dorking-Horsham route. It'll probably be months to fix because it goes through the middle of nowhere. If it was the Brighton Mainline, it would've been up and running 4 days after it happened.
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  27. ChrisD

    ChrisD .

    The Exeter -Waterloo line now shut at Crewkerne (landslip) and the routes via bristol or Castle Cary flooded the Exeter St Davids live departure board is looking v sad.
    I live in Exeter and in next 10 days I need to visit Birmingham and London for work. :(
  28. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

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  29. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    What a wierd news story.

    "A non-identifiable entity at Network Rail reveals that they are a thinking about a plan which was already announced last year and is non-specific and without any timescale or budget."

    Quite a scoop for the BBC there.
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  30. toggle

    toggle wobbly

    not quite, the existing plan was only to reopen the section of the branch line from Bere Alston to Tavi. which was to be single track, like the rest of that branch line. I've been hearing people say they want that route reopened since I moved here; it certainly appears to be the most popular option. I'd think the waryness mentioned in that story is more along the lines of 'we'll believe it when we see it being built' because we could have run the region on the hot air generated from discussion of the issue in the run up to every election

    oh, and reopening the tavi line was a bribe to get people to accept a huge new housing development there. well, huge for a place the size of tavi

    oh, and the plymouth library turned this up during the week.
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