MacHeads The Movie

[Crispy]

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[GarfieldLeChat]

Still - I do agree with you on the battery front; I don't like this trend towards devices with built in batteries which are not designed to be easily replaced, if at all.

well at the moment this is a bad thing however, in the not too distant future batteries will be made which will charge form the power supply and out last the technology they are fitted in by some way... lthium ion is consider old hat in battery technology now... look out for nano ion batteries real soon which will certainly almost reduce the ned for replacemtns...

 

[Crispy]

Been reading about this silicon anode nanotechnology that should give a 10x increase in battery life. Can't wait for that - finaly batteries will catch up with the devices they're supposed to be powering (remember when a palm would run on a AAA for weeks?)

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Their "brick it" attitude towards people daring to unlock their iPhones suggests that they might not look so kindly on such things these days.

erm their brick it was for people who had gone past 4 (count those) warnings telling them to uninstall any 3 party apps /patches/ hacks before updating it or realise that it may cause the unit to malfunction.

now whislt the whole i should bea ble to stick what software i chose on my technology debate is entirely vaild, a user flicking though the firmware warnign dialoges telling them to stop or they may brick it fi they don't do certain things is entirely the users fault. and is totally standard within the industry MS in effect brick you pc on vista if it's discovered you are running an illegal copy, uncertifued software. they brick you xbox system by removing the access to xbox live for changing the HDD. Sony brick your psp and ps3 if you are foudn to be running illegal software/apps. Canon and Nikon when releaseing firmware updates advise you to take certain actions or face bricking your camera.

indeed most manifactuers will attempt to prevent oyu from running hooky software on your machine ...

All of this Bricking is in fact merely locking the machine it's not killing it off with an EMP and there are ways round it...

as i said the dabate as to whether we shoudl ahev control over our tech or giant mega corps should is a different (uptopian) argument, but you can hardly single out Apple as being ab normal in the Electronics industry for saying we don't support 3rd party apps and if you've nicked our software or hacked it we won't support it and in fact our updates might even fuck your machine...

 

[ExtraRefined]

Well done again on relinking to the same poor quality example as before - a laptop that's not billed as user serviceable, proves - cor bleeding blimey - tricky to disassemble to replace a HD, invalidating the warranty in the process. Blow me down with a feather.

Unlike almost all modern laptops - hence me describing Apple's design as not sensible. I must give them credit for such a good money making scam though, in designing a laptop that users can't replace/upgrade even the simplest part.

Do you want a biscuit or something for echoing the same inconsequential, fatuous point. Special ' inconsequential geek smartarse' badge?

Are you hoping that if you insult Apple detractors enough Steve Jobs will be your friend?

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Unlike almost all modern laptops - hence me describing Apple's design as not sensible. I must give them credit for such a good money making scam though, in designing a laptop that users can't replace/upgrade even the simplest part.

dude have you any idea how many people buy computers in the USA and have no idea how to open one up hell how to use system restore or tiem machine to take them back to a previous point....

It's a lot.

That's the market place like it or lump it until China has excess wealth in the same adundance that the USA does then all electronics round the world will be aimed at the US market... cos it's the biggest... these users buyt hing cheaper and throw them away when they are broken... they don't do fixing things... geeks, phreaks, tech heads, nerds, the poor they fix things the average joe bloggs couldn't give a shit and wouldn't know where to start.

So to say hey the consumer modle has no user serviceable parts accessable to them is perfectly correct the consumer models been diesgined for that purpose that it's a one shot deal when it' busts you buy a new one it's called builtin obbsolessance....

You might think iths is a detriment to all users however all users are unlike you in that they won't take these things apart...

As has been shown the articulte you quoted was for an earlier model of mac and the later ones have now been changed...

so again the argument is invaild unless you are talking about servicng older machines in which case then yes all older computers are inherently more difficult to work on that newer ones... you point is....

Are you hoping that if you insult Apple detractors enough Steve Jobs will be your friend?

what do you gain from constantly sniping at other psoters about their choice of computor or the snide comments about them? is it a feeling of superiority you get? or is it that you are just hypocrtically conceited...

 

[8ball]

This has all gone a wee bit off topic.

 

[Crispy]

This has all gone a wee bit off topic.

You're not surprised, are you?

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

This has all gone a wee bit off topic.

there's not a lot in the topic but there's a concerted group of trolls who when ever any thing mac is realise feel they have to over extol themselves in whipping up hatred for it.

It's a superioity complex which is terribly tiedious my cokc is bigger better than your cock which most people try and aviod...

no doubt there'll be some caustic rebuttle claiming that all mac users are up their own arses or summit...

essentially it's childish tribalism and played out by childish people...

still i guess it keeps them occupided...

 

[8ball]

there's not a lot in the topic

That's kind of the point, that people (and, in including Californians, I may be stretching semantics a bit) will make a weird-ass cult based around almost nothing at all.

 

[editor]

there's not a lot in the topic but there's a concerted group of trolls who when ever any thing mac is realise feel they have to over extol themselves in whipping up hatred for it.

Dunno about these mysterious "group of trolls," but I'm talking about the people in the film who really are well worthy of being pointed at and laughed at.

 

[tarannau]

Unlike almost all modern laptops - hence me describing Apple's design as not sensible. I must give them credit for such a good money making scam though, in designing a laptop that users can't replace/upgrade even the simplest part.



Are you hoping that if you insult Apple detractors enough Steve Jobs will be your friend?

Fantastic, so that's you linking to the same inconsequential link for the 3rd time, notwithstanding the fact that's to an older macbook design that was superceded. And once again you don't apologise or deal with the fact that you flat-out exaggerated/lied/made a wanker out of yourself about the Air and the ipod.

I don't give a shit what Steve Jobs thinks about me to be honest. I just can't really understand why pillocks like you turn up on a thread to comment about a platform that you're clearly uninformed about and then stick around to have more pops, despite obviously being more than a little wrong on your basic criticism.

 

[ExtraRefined]

And once again you don't apologise or deal with the fact that you flat-out exaggerated/lied/made a wanker out of yourself about the Air and the ipod.

Where have I lied exactly?

I just can't really understand why pillocks like you turn up on a thread to comment about a platform that you're clearly uninformed about and then stick around to have more pops, despite obviously being more than a little wrong on your basic criticism.

You do realise that I network, support and repair a mixed windows/mac network for a living don't you?

 

[editor]

* gets popcorn

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Dunno about these mysterious "group of trolls," but I'm talking about the people in the film who really are well worthy of being pointed at and laughed at.

it' turely is odd sane rational reasonable people seem to fall into this trap time and tiem again. i call it hardward blindness...

but yes they jolly well are...

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

You do realise that I network, support and repair a mixed windows/mac network for a living don't you?

god help your clinets if you are that snide and sneery to them day to day...

I noe IT me, i haz tha powers ....

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

That's kind of the point, that people (and, in including Californians, I may be stretching semantics a bit) will make a weird-ass cult based around almost nothing at all.

tribalism will be around if we all had the same clone ... I'm convinced it's what makes us human the abilti to differnetiate on some levels with everyone else and then go to war over it...

 

[editor]

it' turely is odd sane rational reasonable people seem to fall into this trap time and tiem again. i call it hardward blindness...

but yes they jolly well are...

So who makes up the "group of trolls" in this thread please?

Only ten people have posted so far, with you being the most prolific poster.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

So who makes up the "group of trolls" in this thread please?

Only ten people have posted so far, with you being the most prolific poster.

here we go

AGAIN

I'm sure it's perfectly apperant i'm not in the mood to play you games today not after your debacle yesterday which i note you still haven't returned too, or apologised for...

moreover has anyone ever told you that the purpose of a bulletin boards isn't to repeatdly demand proof of some assumed personal slight on whenever you disagree with a poster and that it's a tactic which you yourself have outlawed in your own FAQ's... not to mention nothing is as suredly guarenteed to have people ignore your comments or dismiss you as going off on one yet again... (or any poster who does this exclusivity not being contianed to just yourself caveat added to prevent this being seen as an offtopic personal attack and in expectation of yet another post demanding proof....)

 

[Kid_Eternity]

there's not a lot in the topic but there's a concerted group of trolls who when ever any thing mac is realise feel they have to over extol themselves in whipping up hatred for it.

Well I just like taking the piss out of corporations really (remember my digs at Nintendo and Sony in the past?); a little iBashing is good for the soul from time to time to clear away the Apple corporate propaganda.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Well I just like taking the piss out of corporations really (remember my digs at Nintendo and Sony in the past?); a little iBashing is good for the soul from time to time to clear away the Apple corporate propaganda.

i'm nto calling out any indiviuals that'd be against the FAQ's

and your only being anti mac so as to appear cool in front of the Editor we know suck up

 

[editor]

I'm sure it's perfectly apperant i'm not in the mood to play you games today not after your debacle yesterday which i note you still haven't returned too, or apologised for...

Why don't you just back up your words? It's a simple enough question: who are these "gangs of trolls" please?

The way you steam into just about every Mac-related thread these days with your disruptive (and rather bizarre) personal accusations is beginning to look like you're the real troll around here.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

and your only being anti mac so as to appear cool in front of the Editor we know suck up

Hahaha! Ya fucker! Check my posts recently, I think you'll find I'm one of the last people the Ed would take seriously. *strikes rebel pose*

 

[cliche guevara]

Just one example of how sadistically difficult macs are to work on. On most laptops an HDD swap is a 5 minute job, but for Macs you have to take the entire thing apart - or more likely you have to pay Apple to do so. The same for a battery replacement on a MacBook Air or iPod, or RAM upgrade on a mini. Quality control often leaves a lot to be desired too

Christ, you're right. Macs are ridiculously designed! When I installed and extra gig of RAM in my Mac a few weeeks ago, i had to undo a screw! The entire job took at least two minutes! ON a PC that'd take... Oh wait. My bad.

 

[tarannau]

Yes, imagine my surprise when I pushed down on my 7 year old Apple cube and the whole core lifted out, allowing me to change any of the memory slots, push in a wireless card and slot in a graphics card within a few minutes. Disgusting that they managed to fit such convenience into an 8inch cube!

And it's simply awful when I have to service the MacPros at work - the whole side door sliding off and allowing you to slot in upto 16gig of memory and four drive bays in a matter of minutes. Or the XServe, where it's all plug and play as well.

Terrible indeed! It's simply awful having to work within a mixed pc and windows environment!

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Why don't you just back up your words? It's a simple enough question: who are these "gangs of trolls" please?

The way you steam into just about every Mac-related thread these days with your disruptive (and rather bizarre) personal accusations is beginning to look like you're the real troll around here.

why the hell i'm gettign into this tiersome nonsense with you yet again i dont know but get a grip man this isn't parliemnt its a conversation in general convesation we don't all wallow around with a tide of sources for everything we proffer opinion as you do prolifcally as do most posters here after all it's a discussion board.

I have no intention of naming names nor play silly buggers with your every tiedious derailing tactic of show me the money whenever you take personal distaste to the tone of someones comments go have beer or something strogner and chill out...

and you've still to apologise for yesterdays antics care to do so?


as for steaming in whenever this tpic comes up you want to have a look at your own behaviour as has been said before your ever present rolleyes apple yawn yawn yawn there not as good i don't know why you discuss it tiedium on every single bloody thread about macs along with revol and anumber of others is so fucking boring really teidously dull as i have stated before

no one gives a fuck if you like em or not. whoopee for you that you have the luxery and finacne to be able to 'choose the best tool for the job' however it's fucking childish that there cannot be a discussion on this part of technology which like it or lump it has produced some of the defining parts of our modern technologica history with out some welp piping up with the age odl user net batter of mac vs pc... why not take it as read your not a fanboy and then discuss things on their merits as opposed to using it as yet another badge of honour to prove how leet you are... eh?

I'm on thse threads about macs funnily enough becuase i'm intrested in them I've got several. do you mind that? is it ok with the editor that i use the right tools for the job at hand? care to point out my failings for it? make some weak comment about be being some lifestyler?

or could just possibly be that as user i might be intrested in the fucking topic of them too, heaven fore fend people would have other intrests which aren't in the same sphere as you eh...

i note however you dont' ever pursue revol or others for the furiously anit mac comments but only those who make poitns which you dont' support...

but then that's me being eleitist right...

perhaps if you can't see it you need to ask another moderator to adudicate or refrain from being on these threads...

when you're ready with that apology then...

 

[ExtraRefined]

And it's simply awful when I have to service the MacPros at work - the whole side door sliding off and allowing you to slot in upto 16gig of memory and four drive bays in a matter of minutes. Or the XServe, where it's all plug and play as well.

Yeah, for £4,469 I'd hope it was easy to work on. Pity about the kit they make for us plebs.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Yeah, for £4,469 I'd hope it was easy to work on. Pity about the kit they make for us plebs.

i dont get it?

you get's what you pay for surely...

oh no i boughtt he budget verison it doesn't have the extras the more expensive one does... well duh!

 

[tarannau]

And what sort of corporate network do you run then? A highly trustworthy built on a server made of paper clips and a couple of consumer level laptops that you want to moan about adding a hard drive to. Power user you.

You must know that the XServes do very well in cost comparison terms with other branded servers of course, cross-platforming network expert that you are.

Hell, I'm just the technical blagger servicing a small mixed network of 25ish macs and pcs as a part time role. I seem to be able to manage ok, with the occasional technical call out once in a blue moon. Anyone would think you don't know what you;re talking about.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Christ, you're right. Macs are ridiculously designed! When I installed and extra gig of RAM in my Mac a few weeeks ago, i had to undo a screw! The entire job took at least two minutes! ON a PC that'd take... Oh wait. My bad.

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