Mac vs PC - The Poll!

[editor]

Yes, a personal insult for you laughing at the poor.

FFS: someone with a PC who can't afford the latest luxury Apple laptop is not poor by even the most stretched definition of the word, you daft 'appeth!

Are you going to apologise for your earlier abuse now? It was a little over the top, you know.

 

[jæd]

actully i lie

i mainly work on windows but at work i run a web server with linux


not that any one really uses it... oh except that i got it running as a print server too.... now tell me why i can get windows to use it get linux to use it but one or two of the macs just can't see the fucker... and apple own cups for fucks sake

Well... They only purchased recently... Have you tried adding the printer manually, either by editing the cups config file directly, or through the cups browser ui. (AFAIK this isn't enabled by default...)

Short of it is that Linux cups can see it, more than likely OS X cups can as well... You just need to hit it a bit...

 

[cliche guevara]

FFS: someone with a PC who can't afford the latest luxury Apple laptop is not poor by even the most stretched definition of the word, you daft 'appeth!

Are you going to apologise for your earlier abuse now?

I find my throwaway insult pales in insignificance compared to your insinuation that not being able to afford a mac is laughable. I find the latter much more offensive.

 

[DJWrongspeed]

the only thing i truly hate in the place i work is the database

because it's filemaker

i hate filemaker

i really fucking hate filemaker

sql mother fucker can you use it?

Filemaker isn't a pro db, it's for the average user to setup a db. For the unitiated wanting to setup a small system> Filemaker vs Access , i'd recommend Filemaker everytime. If you wanna do something quickly that is fast and works it's a remarkable bit of software. As with all things 'the devil you know' and all that.

As for the Mac <> PC debate. We need both obviously. For the average low use home user who isn't skint i'd recommend a mac everytime. Far less hassle. For everyone else a PC

 

[editor]

I find my throwaway insult pales in insignificance compared to your insinuation that not being able to afford a mac is laughable.

Where did I say that?

I've only been laughing at you and your ridiculous notion that poverty is somehow measured by someone's ability to rush out and buy the latest upmarket electronic luxury consumer goods.

In fact, I'd say that's more than a bit insulting to the real poor.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Well... They only purchased recently... Have you tried adding the printer manually, either by editing the cups config file directly, or through the cups browser ui. (AFAIK this isn't enabled by default...)

Short of it is thqat Linux cups can see it, more than likely OS X cups can as well... You just need to hit it a bit...

the printer has been added to the linux machine and the windows compters can print to it... the other linux computer can print to it ans some of the macs can print to it.... but othjer can seem to no matter how i try...

i just want it to be easy....

 

[jæd]

Filemaker isn't a pro db, it's for the average user to setup a db. For the unitiated wanting to setup a small system> Filemaker vs Access , i'd recommend Filemaker everytime. If you wanna do something quickly that is fast and works it's a remarkable bit of software. As with all things 'the devil you know' and all that.

IMO, they're both as bad as each other since they can grow for little personal dbs and in no time they're enterprise-wide, mission critical systems...

For everyone else a PC

Personally I find them a great tool for developing... It has many languages built in (java, perl, php, ruby) and many servers that make developing easier as well (on board postfix, apache, ssh ready to go).

Of course, different people's opinions vary...

 

[jæd]

i just want it to be easy....

If you want an easy life why do you "work with computers"...?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Filemaker isn't a pro db, it's for the average user to setup a db. For the unitiated wanting to setup a small system> Filemaker vs Access , i'd recommend Filemaker everytime. If you wanna do something quickly that is fast and works it's a remarkable bit of software. As with all things 'the devil you know' and all that.

it's marketed as a pro db.... for the small stuff they now sell bento

and filemaker is powerful .... but it feels really arse backwards.... the lack or seperation between the elements is painfull sometimes... it can be hard for a lot of the users to clearly distinguish between searching and editing


and why oh why oh why doesn't it have a little box somewhere so i can just type in sql queries

even acces can do that

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

I like the fact Macs can also be used as PC's.. so I'll go Mac - because its both.

Except I accidentally clicked PC on the Poll

must be my conditioning...

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

If you want an easy life why do you "work with computers"...?

because computers are still easyer than people

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

fuckit... i'll just use nothing but terminal on osx and pretend i'm telneting into a unix box

 

[cliche guevara]

Where did I say that?

I've only been laughing at you and your ridiculous notion that poverty is somehow measured by someone's ability to rush out and buy the latest upmarket electronic luxury consumer goods.

In fact, I'd say that's more than a bit insulting to the real poor.

Erm, it was actually you that insinuated that, not I. I think you're getting a bit confused.

 

[Fez909]

Where did I say that?

I've only been laughing at you and your ridiculous notion that poverty is somehow measured by someone's ability to rush out and buy the latest upmarket electronic luxury consumer goods.

In fact, I'd say that's more than a bit insulting to the real poor.

I think you're being unfair here. He said that they are too poor to buy a Mac (after you asked the same), and not that they are poor in general.

 

[newbie]

there are 7,637 subdirectories to my windows folder.

is that not barking?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

....would it be better to shove it all in one folder?

 

[newbie]

I dunno, five and a half thousand of them are subdirectories of ..\winsxs with names like
\msil_microsoft.mediacenter.shell_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16625_none_4e9d1a9a98c598a9
and 1 file inside.

Trying to guess what they do and whether they'd be better doing it in a single directory is way, way more than I can do.

 

[Firky]

PC Is only good for two things: Team Fortress 2 and I find networking easier to configure but that is probably in-experience.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

windows has better anime mascots too

 

[JTG]

No need for a self-selecting poll - here's the actual facts from the server logs:

 Platform - hits - percentage
Windows        15,407,543     91.1 %
Macintosh      1,115,005       6.5 %
Linux            210,936       1.2 %

Excellent - I'm part of the select 1.2%

 

[jimbobular]

In my time I've used both PCs and Macs with equal love and loathing.

Both the OSs are pretty similar these days and most peep's tasks (email, web browsing, word processing etc) are a fairly similar prospect on both platforms. I find most of my coding/dev tasks are easier to do on the pc because there are generally more dev utils for pc than mac.

I do get a bit fucked off with the myth perpetuated by my Mac-using friends that they never crash. Sit me down at a mac for 5 minutes and when I start asking it to do lots at once, I guaranty there'll be an unexepected error or stupid spinning beach ball of doom.

And where's the 'Expand Window' button on the window bar???!!! FFS

 

[soulman]

Use what you want, or what you have to hand. No one gives a fuck about this kind of shit any more.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

And where's the 'Expand Window' button on the window bar???!!! FFS

That would be the green one on the right

 

[editor]

PC Is only good for two things: Team Fortress 2 and I find networking easier to configure but that is probably in-experience.

Dumb quote of the day!

 

[gentlegreen]

I pre-date both technologies.

PC / Windoze because I'm increasingly annoyed by change... and because I'm much too lazy to learn. It's also the OS used on the several hundred machines I have varying levels of responsibility for - so it helps that the fun things I'm actually motivated to do, coincidentally teach me about the same environment.

Doubtless if my graphics needs went beyond MSPaint I might have got hooked on MACs in the days when they were synonymous with Adobe Photoshop (another sacred cow that leaves me cold).

What I long for is a technology as intuitive and fast as a workbench of quality tools....

If I hadn't lost my enthusiasm years ago, I would be using Linux and stripping away all the bits that I don't need.
.

 

[jimbobular]

That would be the green one on the right

Hmm, the green button's behaviour isn't totally consistent tho and certainly doesn't do the job of the 'Maximize' button on windows. There is a key press for it I think

 

[Kid_Eternity]

That was about the only part I agreed with.



Yes, a personal insult for you laughing at the poor. Which, coming from the owner of a prominent leftie website, seems a bit daft. I don't think i'm the only one that finds your tone on these mac/pc threads to be unneccessarily aggressive.

You're not, in fact any thread with the words Palm or Apple in you'll find the Ed being little better than a troll. Shame really cos I've really liked the guy in real life when I've met him and have a great deal of admiration for his photography and the success he's made of Urban75...

 

[editor]

You're not, in fact any thread with the words Palm or Apple in you'll find the Ed being little better than a troll

Oh for FUCK'S SAKE.

Will you please STOP following me around the boards just to take cheap bullshit pops at me. It's gone beyond a fucking joke now.

But be sure to point out where I trolled the MacBook or Sony thread. I'm waiting.

 

[DotCommunist]

without reading thread

My IT tech mum states that 'PC are women and Macs are men'

Stupid gender generalisations ahoy! but I argued that Macs are women because they look good, and you never really work them out, but they are totally needed.

PC's are men because because they are the dominant technology.



/gender stereotyping

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Hmm, the green button's behaviour isn't totally consistent tho and certainly doesn't do the job of the 'Maximize' button on windows. There is a key press for it I think

Actually, it's not, and it pisses me off. I have never been able to work out how window sizes work with some applications. Most of them do, admittedly, follow the "maximise/restore" route, but Safari for instance is a terrible offender - I can never tell what size a new window is going to be, and maximising only seems to do it vertically, or at least did last time I tried. (I'm using Firefox 3 now which behaves as you'd expect.)

I pretty much never maximise windows anyway these days but if the option is there it should be consistent.