Mac OS X
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GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
you would if you were on a plane at the time...john x said:Not too bothered if it does! All my shit is backed up and I'll get a brand new MacBook Pro with Leopard in it from Apple.
john x
What were the macs for?pk said:I pretty much refuse to use XP since the release of OS X, unless I have no choice.
Just persuaded another firm to spend their budget on Macs as opposed to shitty Windows NT systems.
Steve Jobs should send me another Powerbook by way of thanks.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
Video editing, on a large scale, live production, no fucking about with stupid windows that refuse to close, none of that multiple mirror window bollocks, just pure unadulterated streaming video cut and flow from a couple of terrabytes of server.
Plus graphics and audio edits on demand whilst digitising video, and internet access at the same time.
Impossible on a PC system without months of pissing about and spending three times as much.
Plus Macs are cooler and get you chicks.
Plus graphics and audio edits on demand whilst digitising video, and internet access at the same time.
Impossible on a PC system without months of pissing about and spending three times as much.
Plus Macs are cooler and get you chicks.
DarthSydodyas
rusting
I'm already looking into using Macs for video editing, as we're looking at moving existing dv out and rigging up some HD systems. I'm not content with PCs, no matter who builds them (they've had better luck with my builds than so-called professionals and I'm still not happy).pk said:
What kind of servers have you got rigged up in your apple configurations? Is it all fibre networking, or are you having luck with copper-wiring? Is it strictly SCSI drive on servers, or are you getting along with SATAs?
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
Was using a terrablock on a fibre-optic for a while, with both PC and Mac, but found that a pair of Mini G drives on a Mac Firewire loop are even more reliable.
If you're thinking about HD then don't even consider using a PC. Really.
I'm not just saying that because I think PC machines are a fucking joke.
Well, actually, who am I kidding?
Get a G5 dual proc and a Multibridge Pro card - but don't buy the Sony HD decks until they've sorted their shit out - don't know what's going on with Sony at the moment - they never used to be that shit.
Rent a Digital Betacam machine for mastering SDI output from the bridge.
Word to the wise - if you're thinking of buying a camera look at the new Panasonic, and definitely look into investing in Firestore.
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Panasonic-Announces-AG-HVX200-HD-Flash-Media-Camcorder-with.htm
If you're thinking about HD then don't even consider using a PC. Really.
I'm not just saying that because I think PC machines are a fucking joke.
Well, actually, who am I kidding?
Get a G5 dual proc and a Multibridge Pro card - but don't buy the Sony HD decks until they've sorted their shit out - don't know what's going on with Sony at the moment - they never used to be that shit.
Rent a Digital Betacam machine for mastering SDI output from the bridge.
Word to the wise - if you're thinking of buying a camera look at the new Panasonic, and definitely look into investing in Firestore.
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Panasonic-Announces-AG-HVX200-HD-Flash-Media-Camcorder-with.htm
DarthSydodyas
rusting
Are you connecting multiple computers to the one firewire loop (i.e. a hard drive with pass-thru having two computers hooked up to it)? Essentially, having multiple hard drives available to multiple machines (without manual switching) is what we're looking at.pk said:
The only thing that would stop us is probably what software is available to run on the Mac compared to what we would need (i.e. used to) on the PC. Fortunately, much of it is centered around Adobe so...pk said:
Cheers.
han
love is the answer
I use OSX, have been using macs since system 7 and love em. OSX is a simply wonderful OS. Am looking forward to the automated backup thing you mention Tarannau, as that's one thing I've always felt is lacking in the OS (which XP does have).
However I use XP at work and I quite like it, for certain things. I am planning to get an XP box for home, but if I want to do any music/video stuff I would always choose to use the Mac, mainly for stability reasons, and just that the interface is so much more intuitive.
However I use XP at work and I quite like it, for certain things. I am planning to get an XP box for home, but if I want to do any music/video stuff I would always choose to use the Mac, mainly for stability reasons, and just that the interface is so much more intuitive.
DarthSydodyas
rusting
We're on Adobe Premiere 6.x (bound to the Matrox RT2500) and in someones infinite wisdom we picked up the Pinnacle Liquid Editions system. Both are to be scrapped and new hardware to be brought in.pk said:
The whole workflow is a bit messy at the moment, so I was keen on changing that, especially as VHS is to be totally out of the equation.
Looking at Final Cut Pro, it includes DVD studio. Is this sufficiently comparable to Adobe Encore (i.e. capable of all the motion menu, multiple streams, etc)?
I'm not sure I'd really need to network the footage, as I would just as well house individual projects in their own external hard drives (1:1).pk said:
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Well, games.pk said:I have an XP unit at home, the only think I use it for is storing data from my phone and backing up my mp3 collection.... er, that's it!
What would you use XP for that OSX can't do?
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Mac at work - used for 17 years. PC at home for gaming, 3D creation and piracy. Would like both at home but Mac's are too expensive and un-upgradeable.
I always recommend them to those that can afford it.
I always recommend them to those that can afford it.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Using OS X at work and XP at home, it's like using Apple System 9 and going home to run GEM on an Atari ST. They need to get that Vista out - XP is so fucking backwards, it's an embarrasment.
han
love is the answer
pk said:I have an XP unit at home, the only think I use it for is storing data from my phone and backing up my mp3 collection.... er, that's it!
What would you use XP for that OSX can't do?
It's not that it can do stuff that OSX can't.
I just want to use it as the primary store for my MP3 collection and most other data - I don't want to clog the mac up with junk really, just keep it clean and as stripped down as poss.
Also, Soulseek is much less of a hassle to install on XP, innit?
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
FridgeMagnet said:
Fair enough... I'm not a "gamer", never have been, never owned a Playstation or anything like that - though if I wanted to play games I'd buy a dedicated games box.
Soulseek is possible on a Mac via a program called Nicotine, just needs a bit of setting up and tweaking.
untethered
For industry & decency
Choice of OS is much less of a big deal than it used to be. The big three (XP, OSX, Linux) are all generally quite competent, though each has their strengths and weaknesses.
The reason why XP has about 95% of the market is that it's more than good enough for 95% of people. Personally, I despise Microsoft and everything they stand for. Their earlier OSes were rubbish. Their position on DRM is a disgrace. I am jealous of Bill Gates's wealth. But nonetheless, XP is a pretty competent system, it's cheap and you can run it well on generic hardware that's so cheap it's disposable.
OSX, despite the hype, is just another OS running on just another computer. There are reasons why some people might prefer it, either because they have a specialist interest that's particularly well catered for by the Mac, or want to run a specific application that's only on the Mac. Perhaps you just think it's "cool". (Though I warn; it's really just a computer and no-one else will be impressed apart from geeks.)
Linux is greatly improved these days. It still has its rough edges in parts. The open source culture is either fascinating or tedious depending on your outlook. It's a good choice if you're interested in either forms of "free": freedom to use software without restrictions on copying and DRM, free of purchase cost.
I'd focus more on applications than on the OS. I tend to spend 99% of my computing time using a browser, text editor and word processor. All three OSes won't have much of a problem with that. (It'll be the same browser on all three, Firefox. Text editors are pretty generic (no emacs vs. vi for me!) and word processor choice generally comes down to MS Word (XP or OSX) or OpenOffice/AbiWord (all three).
Final word of warning: Mac Finder is the most sucky major file browser on any OS. In my humble, the league table (best to worst is):
1. Konqueror (KDE/Linux).
2. Microsoft Explorer.
3. Nautilus (GNOME/Linux).
4. OS X Finder.
There are third-party replacements, true. But it's worrying that a company that prides itself on usability and "cool" could permit such a travesty of a major OS component.
The reason why XP has about 95% of the market is that it's more than good enough for 95% of people. Personally, I despise Microsoft and everything they stand for. Their earlier OSes were rubbish. Their position on DRM is a disgrace. I am jealous of Bill Gates's wealth. But nonetheless, XP is a pretty competent system, it's cheap and you can run it well on generic hardware that's so cheap it's disposable.
OSX, despite the hype, is just another OS running on just another computer. There are reasons why some people might prefer it, either because they have a specialist interest that's particularly well catered for by the Mac, or want to run a specific application that's only on the Mac. Perhaps you just think it's "cool". (Though I warn; it's really just a computer and no-one else will be impressed apart from geeks.)
Linux is greatly improved these days. It still has its rough edges in parts. The open source culture is either fascinating or tedious depending on your outlook. It's a good choice if you're interested in either forms of "free": freedom to use software without restrictions on copying and DRM, free of purchase cost.
I'd focus more on applications than on the OS. I tend to spend 99% of my computing time using a browser, text editor and word processor. All three OSes won't have much of a problem with that. (It'll be the same browser on all three, Firefox. Text editors are pretty generic (no emacs vs. vi for me!) and word processor choice generally comes down to MS Word (XP or OSX) or OpenOffice/AbiWord (all three).
Final word of warning: Mac Finder is the most sucky major file browser on any OS. In my humble, the league table (best to worst is):
1. Konqueror (KDE/Linux).
2. Microsoft Explorer.
3. Nautilus (GNOME/Linux).
4. OS X Finder.
There are third-party replacements, true. But it's worrying that a company that prides itself on usability and "cool" could permit such a travesty of a major OS component.
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
Mmm... smeary screen with finger prints all over, just what I like....
There's a very good reason that touchscreens have never really taken off. It's cos they're great for kiosks and sucky for desktops.
Same with handwriting recognition and voice-control.
And the rotating cube desktop has been around on the Mac for a while.
Here's my lil'ol'Powerbook doing OS X, WinXP and Ubuntu - http://www.lazyllama.com/gallery/misc/virtue2.mov
There's a very good reason that touchscreens have never really taken off. It's cos they're great for kiosks and sucky for desktops.
Same with handwriting recognition and voice-control.
And the rotating cube desktop has been around on the Mac for a while.
Here's my lil'ol'Powerbook doing OS X, WinXP and Ubuntu - http://www.lazyllama.com/gallery/misc/virtue2.mov
DarthSydodyas
rusting
I've downloaded one of those OSX copies that you can install on to any PC (the authentication chip thing check cracked).
And, what better way to celebrate my birthday than to upgrade my PC to a dual core XP 4800 and 2GB memory.
And, what better way to celebrate my birthday than to upgrade my PC to a dual core XP 4800 and 2GB memory.
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
Don't hold your breath - the OSx86 Project wiki doesn't give much hope with AMD x2s.DarthSydodyas said:And, what better way to celebrate my birthday than to upgrade my PC to a dual core XP 4800 and 2GB memory.
Let us know if it does work though. That wiki has lots of info on compatible motherboards, patches etc
DarthSydodyas
rusting
It has been a while since I touched Linux, but I'll definately give that a try.
What is the best package to head for?
What is the best package to head for?
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