Mac fanatic raves about Vista on a Mac!
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untethered
For industry & decency
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Yes, and online updates, virus definitions, search indexing (where it's done remotely) etc.
Probably lots of other things I can't immediately think of. I was wondering how much more of this there is in Vista.
I can see a point, if it hasn't arrived already, that the concept of an unregistered/unlicenced OS will be meaningless.
Perhaps the most obvious point at which this will be visible is when the user's data is substantially stored remotely.
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Dunno. I don't use either, I have no interest in iTunes but I manage to use my PC just fine for downloading and burning music CDs without hindrance.jæd said:Isn't that iTunes FUD Myth # 23... With iTunes if you don't like the DRM you burn the tracks to a CD and rip it. Can you do the same with Microsofts...?
Structaural
in Chatsubo
editor said:
Oh good, well as soon as it appears on Demonoid I'll give it a try (on a minor partition
. More importantly can I get a decently hacked OS X that'll run Photoshop and Final Cut on a Dual core Intel PC I'm soon to buy/build?
Because I like both systems for different things.
untethered
For industry & decency
jæd said:
Despite my personal preference for Linux, I'd say it's still not suitable for non-technical users.
I think it could definitely be used on the desktop in more offices where they would have well-managed installations and support, but the home user's PC is the last place it'll have any impact.
The "just use Linux" line that tends to come out in these discussions isn't a serious option for most home users.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
untethered said:
...and how difficult as it's built into the kernel...
'Vista is the first step in making Windows no-longer a general-purpose end-user operating system, but a host environment for specific suites of applications certified to interoperate. Basically, it provides a service that lets signed apps install rootkits and spyware.
As I understand it, there are those in Microsoft that think the popular Vista acronym (virus infection and spyware transmission architecture) applies if for no other reason than that.'
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untethered
For industry & decency
"The WOW starts NOW" is the most patronising and juvenile slogan I've seen to flog a piece of software.
No, I'm not content with criticising the software!
No, I'm not content with criticising the software!
untethered
For industry & decency
editor said:
I fail to see what's so attractive about a piece of software that has to be extensively modified by an unknown third party in an unauditable fashion to be useful.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
editor said:
That's as maybe, but it's the fact that any legal copy I might buy or might be pre-installed has this excessive DRM built it. And the whole spyware/rootware installation by 'signed venders' sounds like a whole new generation of trojans to infect the mass of non-techie PC users.
untethered
For industry & decency
editor said:
By "mainstream" do you mean "proprietary"? I don't see this going on in the open source world.
I'd consider Linux to be mainstream in terms of its corporate support, general applicability and user base.
Jonti
what the dormouse said
Gentle reader, think back and remember how long it took you to get used to your present OS. Of course, changing the OS you use can be something of an effort. Each one makes different assumptions and encapsulates a slightly different way of working.editor said:
That said, the effort required for a windows user to convert to a Linux distro like Ubuntu is minimal nowadays. In part, this is because the GUI is far better and more sensibly laid out. I know a fair few people who've got tired of the spying and lying that comes with MS, and now use Ubuntu instead.
If anything, junking the monopolist OS (designed to make easy for for liars and snoops like Sony and Acer etc etc) is *easier* for the average joe than for the power user, who may have rather specific needs, and who may well know how to protect themself anyway.
Folk who use a computer to store their music and videos, surf the net, write letters and all the usual stuff will be able to junk MS in favour of Ubuntu Linux with comparatively little effort.
editor said:
I've just installed Kubuntu and it's even better than sliced bread
With Automatix and and EasyUbuntu it has been a piece of piss to setup and install all the programs I'll ever need. Even a complete novice could do it.
Took less than half an hour to install the OS and about the same to configure all the bits and bobs I wanted. And this on a very old pc that struggled to even run xp.
It's so quick, it's like I've gone out and bought myself a new pc !!!
And the funniest thing as well is that the Xp-only apps I'm running under WINE work better and faster than they did when I had Xp installed.
Jonti said:
Interesting anecdote: When I go on holiday I usually ask friends to flat sit... As part of this I let them use my computer which has Ubuntu installed. Once I tell the which icon to click on for Internet and IM both were fine about using it. And these were both ditzy scene-queens and not computing professionals...!
Jonti
what the dormouse said
RaverDrew said:I've just installed Kubuntu and it's even better than sliced bread
With Automatix and and EasyUbuntu it has been a piece of piss to setup and install all the programs I'll ever need. Even a complete novice could do it.
Took less than half an hour to install the OS and about the same to configure all the bits and bobs I wanted. And this on a very old pc that struggled to even run xp.
It's so quick, it's like I've gone out and bought myself a new pc !!!
And the funniest thing as well is that the Xp-only apps I'm running under WINE work better and faster than they did when I had Xp installed.
I come not to praise Gates, but to bury him
untethered
For industry & decency
editor said:
It's a tiny proportion but still a very large number. It must be in the millions, if not the tens of millions.
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