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slackware can convert rpms to its native tgzs, i am sure Ubuntu comes with something similar.

rpms is not the cleanest package managment system, thats why i prefare something without dependency checking, like slackware
 
lobster said:
slackware can convert rpms to its native tgzs, i am sure Ubuntu comes with something similar.

Yep, but its increadibly rare that you'd only be able to find something as a rpm and not in apt or as a tar ball.

lobster said:
rpms is not the cleanest package managment system, thats why i prefare something without dependency checking, like slackware

"Something without dependency checking". Um... If you installed something without checking for dependancies then what you've just installed is unlikely to work. Perhaps you mean "a package management system"...

A while ago I preferred using tar balls but then I realised how much time I could save with apt. Want to upgrade Ubuntu to the newest version. "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". Much easier...
 
How to install stuff in ubuntu, the easy way!

Open up system->administration->synaptic
search for 'clam'
rightclick on the clamav entry and select 'mark for instalation'
click the 'accept' button on the button bar.

et voila!
----------------------extra!

if you search for clam and it isn't there, go to the settings->repositories in the synaptic menu. One of the greyed out entires will be for:
uri: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
distribution: breezy
section: universe.

enable that one, go back to the main synaptic and select edit->reload package and search again.

You can now download pretty much anything you need using synaptic.
 
Btw, I've just installed ubuntu on my work PC and it's great. Evolution doesn't quite live up to the 'works with exchange' hype though.
 
Ubuntu is secure

I have now got a new 80Gb harddrive which dual boots from Linux Ubuntu and Win XP and a total of 384Mb of memory on a 800mhz Athlon XP chip. The big worry for me ... security suites for Linux Ubuntu and Win XP

Hi KeyboardJockey,

First thing you need to be clear on is that the default Ubuntu installation is safe and secure to use on the internet immediately. You don't need to do anything to it at all. Of course there are circumstances where special security measures would be advisable, but if you're a regular home user connecting via an ethernet modem then you are OK. Like a Mac, Linux is safe for the home user. :cool:

Although viruses will not harm your system (just as they are no threat to Macs either) you may still want to detect them, so you don't email them or otherwise pass them on to your less fortunate friends who use windows systems, which are very vulnerable. But if you do just want to look at the occasional mail attachment, ms.doc, or image file to check for viruses, clamav is probably not a good fit for your needs. Instead, look at Aegis, " a virus scanner for Linux/Unix systems with a simple and intuitive user interface".

It's right there ready for you to install, if you decide to use it. Here's how ...

System --> Administration --> Add Applications --> Accessories
And from the "Add Application" program choose
Accessories --> More Programs --> Aegis Virus Scanner

If the Aegis program is "not currently installable" then from the "Add Application" program choose
Settings --> Repositories
and click the "Add" button then tick "Community maintained (Universe)" then leftclick on OK. You will be asked to confirm that you want to reload the package list. Click "Yes" and you will shortly have Aegis available.

The Aegis Virus Scanner supports scanning of subdirectories, hidden files and .zip and .tar archive files, and drag-and-drop of files from the Nautilus file browser, or your Gnome desktop. When a virus is detected you can choose to delete, quarantine or rename the file.

Windows of whatever sort, including XP, I'm afraid, is a different matter. It's not secure from the get-go, and it takes a lot of work and ongoing effort to make it secure and keep it that way. A great guide is Thomas Greene's "Computer Security for the Home and Small Office."
 
Nope same problem.

Just tried to download amule. Compressed file appears on Desktop but can't be accessed under Synaptic Manager nor Add/Remove programmes.

I'm sure I'm doing some very basically wrong here. The Ubuntu guide is not that helpful really.

I downloaded an Ubuntu update thinking it might solve the sound problem but it is the same old same old :(

I'm going to put it away for the night and have another go tomorrow.

Windoze might be shit but at least it's idiot proof :D
 
KeyboardJockey said:
Nope same problem.

Just tried to download amule. Compressed file appears on Desktop but can't be accessed under Synaptic Manager nor Add/Remove programmes.

I'm sure I'm doing some very basically wrong here. The Ubuntu guide is not that helpful really.

I downloaded an Ubuntu update thinking it might solve the sound problem but it is the same old same old :(

I'm going to put it away for the night and have another go tomorrow.

Windoze might be shit but at least it's idiot proof :D

Um... Did you actually read the ubuntuguide...?

UbuntuGuide.org said:
Q: How to install P2P eMule Client (aMule)?

1. Read General Notes
2. Read How to add extra repositories?
3. sudo apt-get install amule
4. Read How to refresh GNOME panel?

Which part of this didn't work for you...?

I'd really like to help you. But if you don't give specifics that it won't be possible to.
 
Um, not wanting to crowd this thread but.. (deep breath). Most distributions are all the same. They only differ in how they manage the packages. Some distros use systems like apt-get, some use yum.... and so on.. Ubuntu uses apt-get. The "gui" is called synaptic. So easy. if I can use it then any one can. To install stuff like aMule you just do as suggested above..use synaptic or apt-get. I use amule all of the time... and nicotine and ....

You don't need Mcfee cos you are lucky to have a Unix-based system. (Nobel prize winner for the man that does write a &nix virus)
 
jayeola said:
You don't need Mcfee cos you are lucky to have a Unix-based system. (Nobel prize winner for the man that does write a &nix virus)

Where does luck come into it...? Having a linux computer usually indicates intelligence.

Oh, and you do know that there have been linux viruses before...? Its not a problem creating a linux virus. Its just that it won't survive very long in the wild. Linux based viruses & worms are very, very unlikey...
 
install amule the easy way

KeyboardJockey said:
Nope same problem.

Just tried to download amule. Compressed file appears on Desktop but can't be accessed under Synaptic Manager nor Add/Remove programmes.

I'm sure I'm doing some very basically wrong here. The Ubuntu guide is not that helpful really.

I downloaded an Ubuntu update thinking it might solve the sound problem but it is the same old same old :(

I'm going to put it away for the night and have another go tomorrow.

Windoze might be shit but at least it's idiot proof :D

KeyboardJockey, what folks have said here is good advice, as far as it goes -- just not good advice for *you*, I think. This is how you can install aMule the Ubuntu way...

First start the "Add Applications" program in the Administration section of the System menu. This can be expressed in shorthand like so ...
System -> Administration -> Add Applications

In detail:
Open up the "Add Applications" program by using your mouse to leftclick on the word "System" which appears on the menu bar at the top of your screen; a drop down menu will appear. The second item down on this menu is "Administration". Move your mouse cursor so it is over the word "Administration" and a submenu will appear. The item at the top of this submenu is "Add Applications". Move your mouse cursor over this "Add Applications" and then leftclick on it. You'll be asked for your usual password, then the program will start.

OK. Now we've got the "Add Applications" facility started, notice the little box at the bottom of the application window. Next to it on the right is a button marked "Search". Move your mouse cursor over that little text box and watch the mouse cursor change from an arrow into an I shape. Then leftclick on the text box and you will be able to enter text into it. Enter the word "amule" (without the quotes) ... and leftclick on the search button with yur mouse. Your mouse cursor will turn into a spinning circle while the search takes place. Be patient. When aMule appears in the "Add Applications" program window, you will notice it has a little blank square, a checkbox, next to it. Leftclick on that checkbox and a little tick will be displayed in it.

(Note that, if you have not already done so, you may need to add the "Universe" repository. I described how to do this from the "Add Applications" program in my previous Ubuntu is secure post to you above.)

Now leftclick on the "Apply" button in the bottom right hand corner of the "Add Applications" window. This will install aMule for you :)

In Ubuntu speak this is what we've done ...
... start the "Add Applications" program in the Administration section of the System menu. Find aMule and tick the checkbox next to its icon (you will need to enable the Ubuntu Universe repository, if you haven't already done so). Then press Apply.


Rest assured that Ubuntu is indeed idiot proof. Better yet, it's Linux for Human Beings. It does have a different way of going about things than you may be used to, that's all. Enjoy!

:cool:
 
Jonti said:
KeyboardJockey, what folks have said here is good advice, as far as it goes -- just not good advice for *you*, I think. This is how you can install aMule the Ubuntu way...

First start the "Add Applications" program in the Administration section of the System menu. This can be expressed in shorthand like so ...
System -> Administration -> Add Applications

I really appreciate all that people are doing here - and I feel like a total idiot here - but I've looked under the System-Administration but there is no Add Applications control.??
Jonti said:
In detail:
Open up the "Add Applications" program by using your mouse to leftclick on the word "System" which appears on the menu bar at the top of your screen; a drop down menu will appear. The second item down on this menu is "Administration". Move your mouse cursor so it is over the word "Administration" and a submenu will appear. The item at the top of this submenu is "Add Applications". Move your mouse cursor over this "Add Applications" and then leftclick on it. You'll be asked for your usual password, then the program will start.

OK. Now we've got the "Add Applications" facility started, notice the little box at the bottom of the application window. Next to it on the right is a button marked "Search". Move your mouse cursor over that little text box and watch the mouse cursor change from an arrow into an I shape. Then leftclick on the text box and you will be able to enter text into it. Enter the word "amule" (without the quotes) ... and leftclick on the search button with yur mouse. Your mouse cursor will turn into a spinning circle while the search takes place. Be patient. When aMule appears in the "Add Applications" program window, you will notice it has a little blank square, a checkbox, next to it. Leftclick on that checkbox and a little tick will be displayed in it.

(Note that, if you have not already done so, you may need to add the "Universe" repository. I described how to do this from the "Add Applications" program in my previous Ubuntu is secure post to you above.)

Now leftclick on the "Apply" button in the bottom right hand corner of the "Add Applications" window. This will install aMule for you :)

In Ubuntu speak this is what we've done ...
... start the "Add Applications" program in the Administration section of the System menu. Find aMule and tick the checkbox next to its icon (you will need to enable the Ubuntu Universe repository, if you haven't already done so). Then press Apply.


Rest assured that Ubuntu is indeed idiot proof. Better yet, it's Linux for Human Beings. It does have a different way of going about things than you may be used to, that's all. Enjoy!

:cool:

Because there is no Add Applications control I've tried to download amule via synaptic package manager but all I got was the following in a dialogue box:

E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libcurl2_7.12.0.is.7.11.2-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/curl/curl-ca-bundle.crt', which is also in package libcurl3

This was after about the fourth atempt to download it.


:confused: ??

i was fiddling round with SPM and have at least managed to get it to play Mp3's and CD's. :)

So that is something at least.
 
Just had another attempt to download RealPlayer 10 and got:


E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libcurl2_7.12.0.is.7.11.2-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/curl/curl-ca-bundle.crt', which is also in package libcurl3
 
Another attempt to download aMule gives me

E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libcurl2_7.12.0.is.7.11.2-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/curl/curl-ca-bundle.crt', which is also in package libcurl3
 
KJ, I think you have installed something from outside the package managment (apt-get/synaptic) and it is now giving you a headache. Since I don't know what it is or how the file got there I think getting it out might be a pain. The other way is to force it to overwrite the old package (thought this may break whatever the other thing is although probably not since it was installed outside the pkg mgmt scheme anyway).

I gather that you aren't to comfortable on the command line and there may be a setting or something in synaptic that allows you to trigger --force-overwrite. I honestly don't know dick about Ubuntu or synaptic but in apt-get I'd just add an -f so I'd get something like

apt-get -f install amule
apt-get -f install clamav avscan

I don't know if someone else can help with realplayer but I don't see it in any of my debian package lists so I can't really comment. I honestly wouldn't bother with the anti-virus on linux if I were you.
 
Kameron said:
I gather that you aren't to comfortable on the command line and there may be a setting or something in synaptic that allows you to trigger --force-overwrite. I honestly don't know dick about Ubuntu or synaptic but in apt-get I'd just add an -f so I'd get something like

apt-get -f install amule
apt-get -f install clamav avscan

I don't know if someone else can help with realplayer but I don't see it in any of my debian package lists so I can't really comment. I honestly wouldn't bother with the anti-virus on linux if I were you.

Well... If KeyboardJockey uses the guide shown previously and does everything through the command line its easier to help him. Not sure why he doesn't... :confused:
 
Wahay!! I've managed to download aMule.

:) :)

It needed a restart.

It now plays mp3's and CD's as well.

It really is a totally different way of working. I think that what is confusing me is the method of working as it seems a lot less 'linear ' IYSWIM than Win 98 or Mac 7.5 which I'm mostly used to.

Its the idea of having to type in command lines that is getting my head twisted atm.

Thank you all so very very much. :)

I trying hard not to go back to Win as it is crap.
 
jæd said:
Well... If KeyboardJockey uses the guide shown previously and does everything through the command line its easier to help him. Not sure why he doesn't... :confused:

I'm starting to make a bit more sense of the guide but it is confusing.
 
Take your time mate. Glad that you got stuff working. I always aim to learn one thing a week but to learn it thoroughly.
 
jayeola said:
Take your time mate. Glad that you got stuff working. I always aim to learn one thing a week but to learn it thoroughly.

I make you right there. I've tried to do too much at one time on an unfamiliar system.

Thanks for your and everyone elses help to this newbie :)

I'm well chuffed about being able to set up aMule and being able to put stuff into the right directory.

I could probably get a faster dl rate than 512 (got a 1Mb line) but I don't want to push my skills too far.
 
KeyboardJockey said:
I've looked under the System-Administration but there is no Add Applications control.
OK, I understand (I was looking at Breezy Badger, the Oct 2005 release). You will be using the more advanced Synaptic Package Manager instead. No problems. It's under System --> Administration as you've found ...
KeyboardJockey said:
I've tried to download amule via synaptic package manager
KeyboardJockey said:
Wahay!! I've managed to download aMule.
OK, I take it you've used Synaptic to install aMule. That's good. Package management is essential for computer security. Have you installed anything else on the system?
 
aMule is working!!!

I did a restart and it appeared on the programs menu and it works.

I followed the same procedure System-Admin-Synaptic refreshed the libraries to get Mplayer as Totem wouldn't play mpegs (come to think of it it don't play anything which is why I downloaded Cdplayer and XMMS.)

went through the same download procedure and it fell over on libcurl2 again. libcur2 seems to be the big problem on downloading.

I went back to the Ubuntu guide (on the grounds that I should really RTFM :D :o ) and to get over my fear of using the Terminal Window and entered the following:

sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
sudo cp /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf_backup
sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf

this then fell over and returned the following text.


myrealname@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
mplayer-custom
E: Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate
myrealname@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
mplayer-fonts is already the newest version.
You might want to run ‘apt-get -f install’ to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
amule: Depends: libcurl2 (>= 7.11.2-1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try ‘apt-get -f install’ with no packages (or specify a solution).
myrealname@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.
You might want to run ‘apt-get -f install’ to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
amule: Depends: libcurl2 (>= 7.11.2-1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try ‘apt-get -f install’ with no packages (or specify a solution).
myrealname@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf_backup
myrealname@ubuntu:~$ sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf


I'm wondering if it is anything to to with the vlc / vls filethat my friend told me to download as a media player which I have deleted (probably wrongly me thinks :( )

Now the MPlayer icon appears in the Apps menu but when I click on it I get the MPlayer box in the bottom bar of the screen which then disappears after approx 15 seconds.

I'm trying to work by keeping a record of what I'm doing and using the Ubuntu guide.

This libcurl2 file seems to be at the root (pardon the pun) of the problem IMO.

I feel I'm making headway with Ubuntu but am stuck on this one thing.
 
Jonti said:
Have you installed anything else on the system?

I've had umpteen attempts to install MPlayer Xine and others but they all fall over in Synaptic.

I'm beginning to wonder whether the previous attempts to install these and the AV prog have put something on the system that needs to be removed before I can install stuff.
 
Right - something has happened.

I hit return after the last long lot of code in the Terminal Window entered my PW and a window appeared on the screen.

It looks like someform of config file. It is titled Mplayer and text can be entered into it.

Done a restart --nothing.

Went to Ubuntu and downloade codecs did a restart and again bugger all. :(

Frustration is really setting in now.
 
KeyboardJockey said:
This libcurl2 file seems to be at the root (pardon the pun) of the problem IMO.

I feel I'm making headway with Ubuntu but am stuck on this one thing.

Have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install", or installing libcurl2 ("sudo apt-get install libcurl2")...?

Also, when you tried to install m-player it wasn't found... Did you try installing "sudo apt-get install mplayer-custom"...? But it looks like m-player is already installed. What does "whereis mplayer" produce...? It finds something then try running it. eg:

Code:
jæd@erewhon:~ $ whereis mplayer
mplayer: /usr/bin/mplayer /etc/mplayer /usr/lib/mplayer /usr/bin/X11/mplayer /usr/local/bin/mplayer /usr/local/etc/mplayer /usr/local/lib/mplayer /usr/share/mplayer /usr/share/man/man1/mplayer.1.gz 
jæd@erewhon:~ $ mplayer
 
KeyboardJockey said:
Right - something has happened.

I hit return after the last long lot of code in the Terminal Window entered my PW and a window appeared on the screen.

It looks like someform of config file. It is titled Mplayer and text can be entered into it.

Done a restart --nothing.

Went to Ubuntu and downloade codecs did a restart and again bugger all. :(

Frustration is really setting in now.

Um... If you do this in a terminal then you can see the output and relay to us. Then we can help. If you type "mplayer" in a terminal what happens...?

Btw, logging and out is more important than restarting. For this kind of userland stuff restarting wouldn't achieve much that logging in and out would.
 
KeyboardJockey said:
aMule is working!!!

I did a restart and it appeared on the programs menu and it works.

I followed the same procedure System-Admin-Synaptic refreshed the libraries to get Mplayer as Totem wouldn't play mpegs (come to think of it it don't play anything which is why I downloaded Cdplayer and XMMS.)

went through the same download procedure and it fell over on libcurl2 again. libcur2 seems to be the big problem on downloading.

I went back to the Ubuntu guide (on the grounds that I should really RTFM :D :o ) and to get over my fear of using the Terminal Window and entered the following:

sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
sudo cp /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf_backup
sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf

this then fell over and returned the following text.


myrealname@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
mplayer-custom
E: Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate
myrealname@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
mplayer-fonts is already the newest version.
You might want to run ‘apt-get -f install’ to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
amule: Depends: libcurl2 (>= 7.11.2-1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try ‘apt-get -f install’ with no packages (or specify a solution).
myrealname@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.
You might want to run ‘apt-get -f install’ to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
amule: Depends: libcurl2 (>= 7.11.2-1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try ‘apt-get -f install’ with no packages (or specify a solution).
myrealname@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf_backup
myrealname@ubuntu:~$ sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf


I'm wondering if it is anything to to with the vlc / vls filethat my friend told me to download as a media player which I have deleted (probably wrongly me thinks :( )

Now the MPlayer icon appears in the Apps menu but when I click on it I get the MPlayer box in the bottom bar of the screen which then disappears after approx 15 seconds.

I'm trying to work by keeping a record of what I'm doing and using the Ubuntu guide.

This libcurl2 file seems to be at the root (pardon the pun) of the problem IMO.

I feel I'm making headway with Ubuntu but am stuck on this one thing.
Everyone, please pay particular attention to this ...

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
amule: Depends: libcurl2 (>= 7.11.2-1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try ‘apt-get -f install’ with no packages (or specify a solution).
 
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