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Low-fat cauliflower cheese

Alex B said:
That's fine as long as you don't want to eat anything else with any calories in it ever.

We had a delicious low fat korma the other day. It was delicious and it was low fat. What is anyone's problem with that?

Don't be silly, cauliflower cheese once a week (served with other veggies and some protein) or once a fortnight does not constitute a fatty diet.

You can harp on about low fat meals all you like but there is nothing healthier than actually cooking yourself using natural unadulterated foods and things like wholegrains, meat/non meat protein, veggies etc. I make a lovely korma and I don't use any unhealthy foods and it's fookin' gorgeous....:)

(btw, did you read the ingredients on the back? did you check how much salt there was? If so, how much?)
 
Alex B said:
That's fine as long as you don't want to eat anything else with any calories in it ever.

We had a delicious low fat korma the other day. It was delicious and it was low fat. What is anyone's problem with that?
Not saying there's anything wrong with your korma, but I've looked at quite a few of these "look after yourself" type things in the supermarket, which generally advertise themselves on the basis of being low-fat (aside: I'd love to market a product which claimed to be "0% FAT FREE!!!1!" :D ), and it's alarming to note that, quite often, they're actually HIGHER in sugar than the fat-loaded version, and in some cases higher in calories, too, or at least stuffed with saccharin or aspartame (some claims that this is implicated in a wide range of health problems have been made about the latter, as well as questions about the validity of its approval for use as a food additive, and it has to be avoided by people intolerant to phenylalanine).

This highlights for me, the total fatuousness (pun not intended) of the marketing of food products on a "healthy" basis: the manufacturers & supermarkets have jumped onto the "must eat less fat" bandwagon, without actually addressing WHY we must eat less fat. If we eat less fat, but make up for it with sugar, we just end up making our OWN fat. It's not solely about fat - it's about balancing the intake of energy with the expenditure of energy, such that we end up not getting overweight. It's true that fat, as an energy source, is more "dense" than sugars, but the other side of that coin is that fats are metabolised more slowly than sugars, which can (and do) cause blood sugar spikes that increase appetite when they drop again, and have the potential to cause diabetes, while fats, which are much slower to digest, can tend to make people feel "fuller" for longer, and therefore potentially less liable to keep eating.

The same goes for the substitution of saturated fat in the diet with hydrogenated trans-fatty acids (per my earlier rant). Sure, they get to put "100% polyunsaturated fats" on the packet, but they don't tell you that you're probably INCREASING your risk of coronary heart disease by consuming trans-fats rather than the saturated fats in, say, butter.

Furthermore, a lot of these low-fat foods are highly processed, in order to be able to appear and function as traditionally high-fat foods, without actually containing the fat. That means considerably increased levels of adulterants, preservatives, and all the other gubbins that goes with processed foods. Given the record of additives over the decades (tartrazine/E102, trans-fats, palm oil, high-fructose corn syrups, aspartame) to turn out to have profound negative implications for health years after their introduction, I tend to the view that the less of such things I eat, the less likely I am to discover that something I've been happily gorging myself on for years is suddenly discovered to be seriously bad for me.

My approach tends to be (and I speak as someone who is overweight, doesn't take enough exercise, has high blood pressure and cholesterol) that if I want to eat low-fat food, there's no point trying to pretend: if I want a low-fat curry, I'll make it with a tomato sauce, and get my polyunsaturates from olive oil. Meanwhile, I'll attempt to enjoy my lusciously high-fat cheesy stuff in moderation.

I do, however, have some way to go before I'm fully practising what I preach ;)
 
pembrokestephen said:
*gasp*

Noooooooo.

Cheese sauce.

Get a pint of milk, chuck it in a bowl with half an onion (not chopped), some peppercorns, a bouquet garni (dead posh, me), and a bayleaf. Nuke in the microwave for a few mins, let it get nice and warm, leave it to steep while you get on with the rest of it.

Grate some cheese. Lots if you're me, or not so much if you're (blech) going the low-fat route. Cheddar is good, but you can get clever by using a bit of blue cheese such as dolcelatte, gorgonzola (easy on that, though - it's salty), or whatever you have in the fridge: cut off the mouldy bits if necessary, and don't tell anyone, especially not your partner's 16 year old daughter, that the sauce has mouldy cheese in it.

Take a good tablespoonful of flour, and an equivalent quantity of fat (butter probably best, olive oil works, too).

Heat fat in small pan, add flour. Fry flour in fat until it's darkened a little. Now start adding the milk, a little at a time. Your roux will turn into a solid little lump of doings bouncing around in the bottom of the pan. Keep adding a little milk, mixing it in well each time. Keep going, trying hard not to dump onion, peppercorns, bouquet garni, etc into the pan (a sieve helps here).

Once you have all the milk in, you should have a nice sauce with the consistency of...well, white sauce, really.

Now reach for your mustard. If you're using cheap wanky cheese, go for a big teaspoon of mustard, otherwise just a bit less: it gives a bit of a bite, which cheapo cheese generally lacks. Mix in the mustard. Add a teaspoon or so of stock - I use Marigold Vegetable Bouillon, the low salt one, because that way I can use more stock without making my food taste like it was boiled in the Dead Sea. Mix that in too (the stock, not the Dead Sea).

Start adding the cheese. Whack a load in, mix it up - it sometimes tends to coagulate at the bottom, so make sure it's well stirred in. Whack more in, occasionally sampling the cheese as you go (it's traditional, ok?).

You now have a pan full of cheese sauce. Season as appropriate. Enjoy.

You *have* to come to the next Welsh meet - it looks like it's going to be a barbeque, and we neeeeeeeed people with this sort of ability :D :cool:
 
I made the low-fat korma that Alex B ate myself, as it happens. By hand, from scratch. So no, there wasn't loads of salt of highly processed ingredients. And yes, it was tasty.
 
missfran said:
I made the low-fat korma that Alex B ate myself, as it happens. By hand, from scratch. So no, there wasn't loads of salt of highly processed ingredients. And yes, it was tasty.

Aahh see I thought Alex B was taking about low fat meals!

My fault, sorry :)
 
What missfran said.

There's a lot of food snobbishness in the air, and it smells. It smells of high-fat cookery for high-fat cookery's sake in the mistaken belief that it is thereby more authentic.
 
Col_Buendia said:
You *have* to come to the next Welsh meet - it looks like it's going to be a barbeque, and we neeeeeeeed people with this sort of ability :D :cool:
Ah. Well, I'll try and get clearance from the Ms, or maybe even bring her - she's a pretty hot cook.

I did a couple of veggie BBQs shortly after becoming single again, and had loads of fun. Arabic themed, the first time - loads of hummus, falafels, flatbreads (the latter cooked off on a big lump of steel put on top of the barbeque, Arab-stylee), and another time I did an Indian-themed one - the "burgers" were onion bhajis, although I did have a spot of bother with me samosa-folding that time :rolleyes: .

So, yeah, barbeque type deals are a definite possibility ;)

PS: maybe we should have a camping-type urban75 meet somewhere a bit more this way...we could call it rural75.
 
Grrrr.... now you're being a tease. Bloody hell, you can't post stuff like that up and not show for the next meet! We'll bloody bus you over if you do the cooking :D And "Rural75" - I love it :cool: you should trademark that before the Ed sees it! ;)
 
Col_Buendia said:
Grrrr.... now you're being a tease. Bloody hell, you can't post stuff like that up and not show for the next meet! We'll bloody bus you over if you do the cooking :D And "Rural75" - I love it :cool: you should trademark that before the Ed sees it! ;)
what, Rural75(tm), that old thing? ;)

So when's this next meet likely to occur? I'll have to keep half an eye on the calendar...
 
pootle said:
I have a stupid question, so I'm trying to sneak onto these thread in the hope that too many people won't point and laugh, but here goes...I'm trying to cut back on dairy products, so doe "dairy" mean stuff from a cow only. What I'm getting at, is stuff like goats cheese a dairy product or not?

I think it depends on why you are cutting it out. If it's because you think you may be intolerant to milk then goat or sheep milk may be OK.
 
You can make a lower-fat and very quick version by adding half-fat strong cheddar (the M&S one is good) to half-fat creme fraiche. A spoonful of grainy mustard works well in there too.
 
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