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Love Blackheath

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by Mr Blob, Aug 4, 2012.

  1. oryx

    oryx Sitting on the bock of the day

    I'm not keen on Blackheath in the evening, TBH. The pubs are all crowded (and I don't find any of them that nice) and the vast majority of the restaurants seem to be chains.

    Mind you , I suppose you could say that about anywhere. :D Or at least a lot of places.
     
  2. UrbaneFox

    UrbaneFox None, at present

    Is Jools Holland still safely contained in Blackheath?
     
  3. Roadkill

    Roadkill Well-Known Member

    Blackheath always reminded me of a kind of suburban version of Tunbridge Wells, except not nearly as pretty and with far less character. And it is very expensive. I toyed with the idea of trying to move there once or twice when I lived in south-east London, but it just wasn't feasible. Once you get beyond the Royal Standard and head along the Charlton Road you're right on the border between what appears to be the cheaper bit of Blackheath and is certainly the nicest bit of Charlton. It's not well connected by anything other than buses, though.
     
  4. Mr Blob

    Mr Blob canal dude

    Blackheath station will take you to Charing cross and through Greenwich park there is Greenwich cutty sark DLR

    yeah, all areas are subject to personal taste............. a blend of mixed opinions
     
  5. Roadkill

    Roadkill Well-Known Member

    I was referring to the Royal Standard/Charlton Road bit, which is a bit of a walk from either of those options, or for that matter from Charlton station.
     
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  6. cesare

    cesare don't mourn, organise!

    And on the Royal Standard side, Westcombe Park station goes into London Bridge and Cannon St.
     
  7. Roadkill

    Roadkill Well-Known Member

    I forgot about Westcombe Park. :oops:
     
  8. cesare

    cesare don't mourn, organise!

    I tend to as well :D My brother lives round there so that's the only reason I remember.
     
  9. Mr Blob

    Mr Blob canal dude

    huh.........Westcombe Park. One of those shadowy little known stations
     
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  10. Roadkill

    Roadkill Well-Known Member

    It's not so much shadowy as just plain forgettable.
     
  11. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    You can get property next door to each other on the same road, one with a SE13 postcode, one with a SE3 post code and a £30k higher price.
     
  12. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Which one's the more expensive postcode? Might be looking to buy round those parts next year.
     
  13. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat lumpen proletaricat

    SE3 (Blackheath) and SE10 (Greenwich) = most expensive

    SE13 (Lewisham), SE8 (Deptford), SE7 (Charlton) = less expensive (broadly speaking)
     
  14. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Cheers. Blackheath proper might well be out of our range.
     
  15. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    SE18 is where it's at these days ;)
     
  16. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Too far east for me, more likely to go further south really - Lewisham, Forest Hill, Crystal Palace. Bet it's cheap out there tho.
     
  17. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat lumpen proletaricat

    Blackheath 'proper' was kinda expensive (compared to the surrounding patch) even in the 60s when my parents were house-hunting. Obviously the SE3 postcode covers a fairly wide patch, including the Ferrier estate in Kidbrooke which it's fair to say is not the high point of 1970s architecture (although it's being 'regenerated' now)

    But as mr Bromley suggests, chances are you'll get more for the same money if you go slightly further away.

    ETA

    How about Catford, home of the Catford Cat?

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Yeah, but you pay for it. It's too far east for most people tbf :oops: :(
     
  19. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Socially you mean?
     
  20. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    In a number of ways to be honest, but yeah, socially it's a bit of an outpost. And there's not much round those parts for people to be in the area for, iyswim. A few of us are trying to change that though :)
     
  21. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Tell me more?
     
  22. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat lumpen proletaricat

    SE London is off the radar for a lot of people (and therefore less 'sought after' and expensive) because the Underground doesn't go there.

    SE London does have a fairly comprehensive network of real trains (the tangle of lines is thanks to intense competition in the Victorian era between two private train companies whose networks form what is now South East Trains) - on most lines there's a train every 15 minutes or better in the daytime, and since the trains go faster and call at less stations than the underground, a journey in from (say) zone 5 is quicker from SE London than it is somewhere at the murky (N London that is) end of the northern line.

    If you're looking to buy, you might want to think about the bits of SE London that will get Crossrail in a few years (that's Abbey Wood / Woolwich)

    If you can't cope with giving a few moments' thought to train timetables, then N London is welcome to you! :p
     
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  23. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Yeah I know. Happy to live off the Tube, plus we've got loads of mates around Brixton, so anywhere within 30 mins of B is fine. Else all it needs is a decent connection to central London for work. N London can go fuck itself.
     
  24. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat lumpen proletaricat

    :(

    That may be less easy (assuming we're talking public transport)...

    S London isn't that well served for 'orbital' routes, the South London Line bit of the London Overground isn't going to have a Brixton Station.

    The P4 bus links Lewisham with Brixton (bit of a 'back road' route but runs until 0100) but from most bits of SE London, it would mean either going via central London, or bus to somewhere like Camberwell Green or Peckham and changing there.

    Historically, there's almost as much of a SE / SW London divide as a SE / NE London divide, even if there isn't a visible river... Having grown up round the Lewisham / Catford patch, I can't think of anyone I knew ever going to places like Brixton or Streatham.

    :D
     
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  25. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Crystal Palace/Norwood and those parts are well served from Brixton, but a bit further north it's not so great. :(
     
  26. Roadkill

    Roadkill Well-Known Member

    Dunno about Blackheath, but that pretty much rules out Charlton. When I used to do it, Charlton-Brixton was okay in the daytime because you could bus it to Lewisham and pick up the P4, but at night you had to come home via Elephant and then either the N1 or the 53, both of which seem interminable in the early hours when you're tired and fed up and want your bed! It's certainly a good hour, at best.
     
  27. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    I don't think Charlton was ever in the picture to be honest.
     
  28. Roadkill

    Roadkill Well-Known Member

    That's probably for the best. :D
     
  29. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat lumpen proletaricat

    I've never really regarded them as really being in SE London so didn't think of that.

    I also couldn't face living that close to the ground of a certain football team that thinks it's a S London side when it's really in Croydon :p

    The Post Office didn't regard them as such originally, SE 19 upwards got tacked on to the real SE London in 1868...

    ETA

    :mad:

    (should really be a "gives disdainful look over top of glasses" emoticon)
     
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  30. kittyP

    kittyP schmeeer

    I was going to say.
    Charlton is (mostly) a hole.
     

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