Louis Theroux - A Place For Paedophiles

[pk]

As far as I'm concerned if you get convicted of this sort of crime twice that should mean you forfeit your rights to life

I'm still of the "eradicate them for the sake of mankind" opinion.
Use 'em for medical experiments, whatever, I don't really care as long as they're not free.

Which is obviously far more logical and sensible that locking them up for 8 months then releasing them out into the public to rape again.

I didn't watch it because Theroux makes me angry enough, never mind a bunch of child rapists.

Anyone with the lack of self control that they would rape a child needs permamently removing from society, no compromise on that from me.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

it did seem like an excuse to indefinitely detain these people under the guise that it was 'treatment' rather than punishment...

 

[pk]

it did seem like an excuse to indefinitely detain these people under the guise that it was 'treatment' rather than punishment...

Good. Indefinitely detaining people is just as effective as destroying them.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

And her BF was around the same age. Even if Paris, the man her parents wanted her to marry, was older (it's not clear either way), in those days a marriage was often literally just a contract, and there wouldn't be any sexual contact expected for a few years.

Rome and Juliet are often brought up in this sort of discussion, but it's not a good example.

i remeber reading that romeos age is said to be about 18, but however it's not at all relevant to pedophilla it's not even odd socially or legally... in fact in italy the age of consent is 14 even now

 

[scifisam]

i remeber reading that romeos age is said to be about 18, but however it's not at all relevant to pedophilla it's not even odd socially or legally... in fact in italy the age of consent is 14 even now

There really is no way of knowing how old he was, just that he was pretty young - he hadn't been sent out to work in any way, hadn't been sent to war, wasn't contracted to marry anyone else, and, all in all, just acts young.

 

[phildwyer]

Good. Indefinitely detaining people is just as effective as destroying them.

How's that then? As effective at doing what, exactly? Do you want to "destroy" everyone who feels sexual attraction towards children, or only those who act on their attraction?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

romeo always struck me as an arse rosaline was lucky to get away

 

[scifisam]

romeo always struck me as an arse rosaline was lucky to get away

This is true. At the Globe last Sunday, my daughter (Juliette) invited a Friar Lawrence charcater to guess her name. He cycled through them all, including Rosalind - from As You Like It - but had completely forgotten she was Romeo's first love in the play that he was supposed to be a character in. Juliet was just a rebound love. In the play.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

i supose this is why i liked baz's version quite a lot... my hate for dicaprio resonated quite happily with my hate for romeo

 

[Azrael]

I would like to see much more research and funding into treatment-based programmes.

As it would probably cost less than detaining the men for life, I'd agree.

Much as I dislike the idea, there will always exist some mentally ill people who must be imprisoned for life. Some will not have harmed others. So I have no problem with transferring paedophiles to the locked ward after they've served their sentence. Not as punishment, but as a precaution, founded on a proven crime. (So no Minority Report issues.)

Those paedophiles who can be treated should be released after serving a long, arduous sentence at hard labour. But the authorities should constantly err on the side of caution, and never use these men's urges to excuse them. They chose to do what they do, and the law should make them suffer for it.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

oh great suffering in prisons

how wonderfully quaint and victorian

 

[Azrael]

I'll leave aside my preferred penal regime, as that's been covered elsewhere, and isn't really relevant to the thread.

The California programme appears the best solution to paedophiles who've served their prison sentence but remain dangerous. We should adopt something similar. It shouldn't be punitive in any way, as the inmates have already been punished, but they should have to present compelling evidence of change before they're released from lock up. The few inmates on the Theroux programme who had done so were the exception, so you'd probably be paying a lot of money to keep paedophiles imprisoned in comfort.

I'd support that, as justice, not suffering, is my priority.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

how does one present evidence of ones sexual preference?

 

[8ball]

And her BF was around the same age. Even if Paris, the man her parents wanted her to marry, was older (it's not clear either way), in those days a marriage was often literally just a contract, and there wouldn't be any sexual contact expected for a few years.

(bold mine)

Ah - wasn't aware of that bit.

Do you have anything to hand to back that up?

 

[JWH]

There really is no way of knowing how old he was, just that he was pretty young - he hadn't been sent out to work in any way, hadn't been sent to war, wasn't contracted to marry anyone else, and, all in all, just acts young.

And is a fictional character!