Gramsci Agree with your summary. At the beginning of the meeting poor old Helen Hayes was rather sabotaged by the erratic PA system in the hall. It had some bursts of hum and static at mega decibel levels during her speech, which seemed to rather interrupt the flow. Jack Hopkins did come across as quite engaging as you also say. His manner is more natural than Lib Peck who had a touch of the Maybot about her. I was taken aback on his feedback towards the end when Jack Hopkins said (in the context of complaints about lack of funding for community projects such as the Marcus Lipton Centre): "We can do something about that, we are not poor, we have resource." or something very like it. I think he meant the council was not poor. I should add that this sort of thing did not go down with the Marcus Lipton crowd and others who were very vocal that the council has not kept promises in the past, and they didn't trust the council not to dispose of their site for development either. The meeting went well until about 7.20 when people started asking questions and making speeches around their own concerns, not necessarily to do with knife crime or Marcus Lipton. One lady went on for 10-15 minutes about the history of Lysada - a youth project which had rocky relations with the council in the 1990s. I thought it was good that Helen Hayes came and stayed to the end. Our traditional MPs such as Tessa Jowell and Keith Hill used to turn up to meetings and then slope off when they'd done their speech "to attend a vote in the house" being the general explanation. There was a full slate of Coldharbour Ward councillors at the top table, though they didn't say anything. First time I've ever been at a meeting when all my councillors have been there at the same time!