Loughborough Junction chitter-chatter

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by teuchter, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. Beasley

    Beasley Well-Known Member

    I've attended quite a few of those meetings over the years. Mr Shorinwa was often there but always very quiet. I can't recall any contribution from him - perhaps I wasn't listening hard enough.
     
  2. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Thanks to Puddy_Tat some LJ history.
    Today in London striking history, 1988: 5500 Lambeth Council workers strike against cuts lambeth-housing-1988.jpg
     
  3. madshadow

    madshadow Well-Known Member

    I have a query regarding the Loughborough Estate - hows things on the estate these days? I have an offer to take a lease on the flat for few years. I've lived in and around Brixton for about 17 years, from early 90s till 2009, then I moved abroad. Now it looks like I'll be moving back to the area, which I'm very much looking forward to. I used to live near by on Barrington Rd, back in 1995, and TBH, Loughborough was quite a mess at the time... I've heard its all changed now... any feedback is welcome.
    Thanks!
     
  4. xsunnysuex

    xsunnysuex Life is a horizontal fall.

    I live in one of the blocks in Barrington Rd. I have no complaints about living here. I've had no problems at all. The estate is cleaner than a lot of places I know.
    I've not had any problems with other residents. In fact, I love living here tbh.
     
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  5. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    LJAG are advertising a consultation meeting regarding proposed housing developments in the area - a joint one.

    400 new homes in Loughborough Junction
    400 new homes are due to be built in Loughborough Junction
    over the next few years;
    PUBLIC MEETING, WEDNESDAY 30 JANUARY 2019 AT 7PM
    AT THE GROVE ADVENTURE PLAYGROUND,
    18 GORDON GROVE, SE5 9DT.

    CHAIR, DAVID HILLS FROM DSDHA, WHO DEVELOPED THE LOUGHBOROUG JUCTION PLAN IN 2013
    We want to start a conversation;
    We want to influence and make sure everyone in our community benefits;
    We want the developers to talk to each other?
    The following will be coming with their display boards:
    Peabody – Higgs Industrial Estate, Herne Hill Road
    Metaphorm – Hardess Street, Wellfit Street
    Hero of Switzerland – Loughborough Road
    Network Rail
    Also invited: owners of the carpet warehouse and Hinton Road sites and Sureways Church.

    Sounds of some interest, though not sure what the ultimate purpose is, apart from gathering information.

    I am booked into some sort of conference workshop at St Paul's Cathedral on poverty (and usury by the sound of it).

    Maybe I will have to trust others will attend this LJ workshop and report back.
     
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    Can anyone cover this for Buzz? Be good to get the word out.
     
  8. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    I'll try and go along to that.
     
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  9. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

  10. critical1

    critical1 All views expressed are definitely my own.

    The invite list is a bit skewed for some reason, a big impact will be on the densely populated Loughborough Estate, Indeed can Loughborough junction handle any more people, yet on the official mail out it states who's been invited and not a trace of Loughborough Estate... Bad way to start a "Conversation"


    400 new homes in Loughborough Junction
    400 new homes are due to be built in Loughborough Junction
    over the next few years;
    PUBLIC MEETING, WEDNESDAY 30 JANUARY 2019 AT 7PM
    AT THE GROVE ADVENTURE PLAYGROUND,
    18 GORDON GROVE, SE5 9DT.

    CHAIR, DAVID HILLS FROM DSDHA, WHO DEVELOPED THE LOUGHBOROUG JUCTION PLAN IN 2013
    • We want to start a conversation;
    • We want to influence and make sure everyone in our community benefits;
    • We want the developers to talk to each other?
    The following will be coming with their display boards:
    • Peabody – Higgs Industrial Estate, Herne Hill Road
    • Metaphorm – Hardess Street, Wellfit Street
    • Hero of Switzerland – Loughborough Road
    • Network Rail

    Let us not forget the DSDHA scandal of chopping down Mulberry trees as it didn't suit the plan, so much for sustainability.

    Facing the chop: South London council's plans remove mulberry trees because they stain the pavement sparks outrage | Daily Mail Online
     
  11. critical1

    critical1 All views expressed are definitely my own.

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  12. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    It's a public meeting so anyone from anywhere including the Loughborough Estate can go along. The invite list is for organisations with development plans.
     
  13. critical1

    critical1 All views expressed are definitely my own.

    Thanks for clarifying that, then at least its clear that "We want the developers to talk to each other?"
     
  14. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    I'm not sure what your point is - I don't see any conspiracy to exclude anyone. And yes it can be to everyone's benefit if the developers talk to each other to make the most of opportunities to connect between sites and that sort of thing.
     
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  15. critical1

    critical1 All views expressed are definitely my own.

    I say no more.
     
  16. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    View this email in your browser
    [​IMG]
    A Huge Thank You to Everyone for Your Help in 2019
    We have been astounded by the success of the playground since opening in July 2018. We have over 230 families registered and 30-60 young people regularly attending our play schemes

    We are back and preparing for the February Half Term Opening
    We are running 2 Volunteer Days on Saturdays 9th and 16th of February 2019. 10-4.
    We need help with Gardening/Building/Clearing/Painting/Cleaning and the young people of Loughborough Junction would very much appreciate your help in getting the playground reopened. Lunch is Provided

    [​IMG]
    February Half Term Opening Times are Mon 18th- Fri 22nd Feb 10-4
    We will providing a simple lunch

    We need Volunteers at Grove to help with running our Saturday sessions
    Also to help with Managing the Grove Adventure Playground.
    If you are interested, please contact us on grovevolunteers@gmail.com

    [​IMG]
    Football Coaching
    Thank you FFEM @weareffem
    and Marcus Lipton Youth Centre
    @MarcusLipton

    [​IMG]
    The Unity Cafe
    Designed and Built by the Young People
    Thank you BuildUp @BuildUpFdn
    [​IMG]
    Fun at Grove Christmas Party 2018
    Thank you DREW @DrewLDN and their clients.
     
  17. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    delered as fiddly quotes didn't work.
     
  18. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member


    I reckon the email list used for invites would mean that this woul have been sent to LEMB.


    As LEMB won't go to any meeting held at the Grove Adventure playground I think you should ask LEMB Chair and Board whether they will be sending someone to represent the estate. Secondly whether they have sent the info on meeting to residents.


    The meeting has been scheduled to take place in the area of the most social housing. Not the middle class bit of LJ. So easily accessible to social housing residents.


    So what is your problem?
     
  19. critical1

    critical1 All views expressed are definitely my own.

    Peter and the current LEMB BOARD have not sent notice of this meeting to any residents indeed I don’t know if they are acting in anyway to benefit local residents apart from in lip service. I am not really surprised by this.

    The meeting as a means of facilitating developers to talk about (developing between themselves) is a sham imho if its to talk about how they are going to squeeze in an additional 400 or how they will put in services that will be sustainable over the next 15yrs years to accommodate the already densely populated area. Sec106 money is clearly not a solution as that will not cater for the impact on public transport neither will it reduce Doctors already obscene waiting times due to such a highly populated area, it also will not provide for additional school places as I’m assuming that those moving into this area will want to start families, sec106 will not provide waste management etc.

    Developers are only interested in making money and they will dangle any carrot in front of you to get what they want, never mind the consequences, I believe sec106 is only a one off payment and will not cater for the years ahead and the damage caused by inviting more residents in an already overpopulated part of the borough, I hear Clapham has a lot of space free and is less densely populated.

But in any case lets see if any of these developers will opt to remove themselves from the table.

    I also have issue in the misuse of the term social housing, these new builds are not social, will not be offered at current council rents and will not be for those who are homeless, just look at so called social housing in Elephant & Castle and other areas.... they will be private extortionate shindigs for the wealthy out of reach of local residents and a vast majority of people.

    On another side I don't think many residents would actually feel like they live in Loughborough Junction, just ask them. LJ is LJ not halfway to Camberwell or Brixton kinda thing
     
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  20. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    You're quite right that developers are only there to make money, but they also have to get planning permission and it's through that route that there is some chance of influencing what gets built - even if Lambeth planning committee are pretty hopeless, there's at least a chance of something marginally better being built if they know that people locally are taking an interest in the detail of what is being proposed. I don't go along to these meetings with any delusions that comments from the public are going to persuade the developers to massively reduce the density they aim for - but I'd rather that the developers saw that a lot of people have their eye on their proposals, than to turn up to a meeting that no-one comes to because they dismiss the whole process as worthless.

    Where the stated intention is 'we want the developers to talk to each other' you see this as facilitating conspiracy between them, but I don't think that is the meaning at all: there are always opportunities, when several nearby sites get developed around the same time, to do things that otherwise would not be possible. For example, where two sites adjoin each other and face onto different streets there may be the possibility to create a through route for pedestrians which would never come about were the two sites developed years apart. Things like this often aren't even against the interests of the developers; if there are things that can benefit the neighbourhood that the developers have no reason to resist then why waste the opportunity to try and make them happen?
     
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  21. LondonKate

    LondonKate New Member

    Good news - new chemist to open at the bottom of the Keating Estates development on the corner of Coldharbour Lane and Loughborough Road. The work has already started - with nice white shelving going up. No confirmation whether it is going to be a chain i.e. Boots, but great news for the area!
    This info was confirmed by the developer directly.

    On a seperate note: does anyone know what is going to happen with the closed Nisa supermarket?
     
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  22. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I want a chemist which sells the old 99p king-sized Fishermans Friends.

    As for pharmacy services seems to me these are becoming attached to GP surgeries.
    Is the chemist of which you speak designated as the pharmacy for HHR?
     
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  23. xsunnysuex

    xsunnysuex Life is a horizontal fall.

    Junction Pharmacy opposite Coop has HHR. Not sure if there can be more than one though.
     
  24. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I didn't realise that.

    Do you think the new one might be a Millenium Pharmacy? They seem to be an up and coming local chain - Five Ways and two others apparently in Vassall Ward?
     
  25. xsunnysuex

    xsunnysuex Life is a horizontal fall.

    Had an email with the link to the Higgs planning application if anyone is interested.

    Housing association, Peabody submitted its planning application for 134 new homes and industrial space for the long-stalled Higgs Industrial Estate site on Herne Hill Road before Christmas. Lambeth has now validated the application and it is on-line for comment until 22 February .
    The application number is 18/05425/FUL or you can click 18/05425/FUL | Clearance of site and mixed use redevelopment to provide a building ranging in height from 2 to 16 storeys with 134 residential units and 4,032 sqm of flexible commercial floorspace (Use Classes A1, A2, A3, B1, D1 and/or D2) along with disabled parking, servicing, cycle parking, public realm and amenity space. | Higgs Industrial Estate Herne Hill Road London SE24 0AU
    .
    We will be calling a pubic meeting to discuss this application which will transform Loughborough Junction. Watch this space.

    Best wishes
    Anthea Masey
    Chair
    Loughborough Junction Action Group (LJAG)
    07799 621 582
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2019
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  26. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Thanks for posting - I'll add some info to the Higgs thread.
     
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    teuchter je suis teuchter

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  30. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    I see that the Junction Pharmacy are moving into the unit on the bottom of the development by the main junction, the one built where there was previously a slice of open ground and an advertising hoarding.
     

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