Discussion in 'Brixton' started by teuchter, Sep 15, 2013.
Looking for recommendations for a takeaway curry - any suggestions?
Zest of India, by the station. Always good.
I've always been fond of Indiaah in Camberwell.
Was trying to flag up a launch of a Clarkshaws beer as a Lambeth for Europe event at Whirled, but looks like it's private. Suggest you search Lambeth for Europe on Facebook for details on how apply.
The beer launch hopefully will be more widely circulated, there is some work being done
Saw through the door of the shop that used to have the David Greig sign. The back is off at ground floor level and it's all stripped out inside so I guess they are doing an extension out the back.
From Twitter :
"Come and comment on the #towerblock proposed for #HeroofSwitzerland site today 3 Oct 4.30-8.30pm and Sat 6 Oct 10am-2pm at Loughborough Centre on corner of Barrington and Angell roads"
That Twitter account isn't connected to the pub is it ?
Is the pub still open even ?
The pub is def open. The tweet was from LJAG.
First I have heard about the tower block, do you know any more about the tower block ?
I will after about 6pm!
Oh for fuck's sake. Could you take pics and post up anything you can from the meeting? I'd love to run something on Buzz so more people can be informed.
Buzz piece here
Cash-guzzling LJ Works invites ‘thinkers, creatives, entrepreneurs and artists’ to Loughborough Junction, south London
Seems there was a planning application document up on the Lambeth Planning website for public review, however it has subsequently been removed or made private.
001CTBBOBU000 | Hero Of Switzerland 142 Loughborough Road London SW9 7LL
Planning Applications (1)
Follow up pre-application for the redevelopment of the site and erection of 10 storeys building to create 38 affordables homes.
Ref. No: ALC/15/06630/PREAPP | Status: Not Available
Trying to click through to view the planning application results in this:
Planning Application details not available
This application is no longer available for viewing. It may have been removed or restricted from public viewing.
Hmm, on that previous application they were already into the realm of "affordable homes". Given the adjoining shopping parade, the frontage and back yards, the potential footprint of the proposal will be interesting.
"affordable" amount to de decided with council ( but a figure of 40% was mentioned)
Remainder private at market value
USP..... retention of pub but very vague about what type of pub or who'd be running it.
I asked if the current landlord would be involved, was told he would.like to be but no guarantee
guy I spoke to seemed a little unsure of who used the pub, and how busy it is
Damien Hirst name checked as a former regular drinker in pR materials........
I went to the pre application consultation on the Hero of Switzerland site. A few photos. As you can see its higher than Loughborough estate high rise.
The Hero of Switzerland wil come back. On ground and first floor.
Consultation on Hero of Switzerland site will be this Saturday.
Should be pointed out that the only way to comment at this stage is the prepaid feedback form which you pick up at the centre, so worth showing up in person if you can, there's another chance on Saturday I think...
Surely it should also be pointed out that this is the developer's consultation. So they get to choose which comments are in their planning application.
It's all a bit reminiscent of May Developments (demolishers of the Canterbury Arms) - who assured us they would preserve the fixtures of the Canterbury for future community use! One assumes they are in Pop Brixton somewhere.
The prepaid feedback form is a bit rubbish. I asked and you can email comments to:
Even a phone number 0207 554 1898
Thanks, I was not told this......
True tha.....Not quite how it was sold at the event.
I think if I was living in Leicester House I would complain about lack of light.
The new block will interfere with natural sunlight from the south/south-east i.e. most of the morning and early afternoon.
I bet if it gets built it will be some sort of shared ownership scheme, classified as "affordable.
Yes this is a pre application exhibition/ consultation.
I did talk to the architect and developer.
Its higher than the existing Loughborough estate flats.
36 flats plus the pub on ground floor and mezzanine.
I asked about affordable housing. There will be no "poor doors". Affordable will be on-site and tenure blind. Is pepper potted throughout the proposed tower. Percentage of affordable is still under negotiation.
(my partner asked if its going to be all Council housing.when I told her about it. I said no. Its rubbish in her opinion in that case.
At the consultation I met a few people from the estate. They , rightly, imo are cynical about what "affordable" really means. Its not really affordable. Also as at Elephant and Castle , as one pointed out, in end little truly affordable housing was built.
I think there is big issue in building a high block of flats in midst of Council estate which no locals could afford.
An argument put forward in my discussion with developer/ architect was that this high tower could be focus point/ landmark as its in centre of this whole area of housing. Replacing the pub. So in keeping with area.
The Elephant in the room is that this is still solidly working class area. With Council tenants who are quite outspoken.
I saw the email address on the feedback form and asked. To many leading questions on the form.
I had chat with the architect for the Hero of Switzerland site.
The height of the proposed tower is related to the Golden ratio In the same way that nearby Council blocks are. But they do it horizontal way and the tall proposed block does it vertically. So if one laid the proposed block on its edge it would be same as the Council blocks.
This comes from Corbusier.
Interesting chat. Architect said they had been in conversations about this with the council planners.
I still feel the block is out of place in context of rest of estate. It sits in way that is at variance with existing estate.
I said to the architect its a pity to lose the interior of the pub. As its original and looks good. He was keen on saving interior of old pub and incorporating it into new one.
Another opportunity to look at the plans on Saturday, between 10am and 4pm - community centre on the corner of Barrington and Angell.
I thought the architect was full of BS, and the overall plan disgusting in terms of social vs. shared ownership vs. private.
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