Discussion in 'Brixton' started by teuchter, Sep 15, 2013.
Pretty formulaic like a lot of this stuff.
Tagging as opposed to street art started out on New York subways. A way for alienated youth and those in dead end jobs to get noteriety.
It wasn't connected to art market or done for monetary gain. Partly done at night as people were working in the day.
It wasn't even meant to be that artistic.
Though as one sees above in photos it's become more like high quality graphic design.
I think Instagram etc has changed the game a bit recently.
Social media is fuelling a surge in rail graffiti
The one behind Tesco's is cut above the average. I don't know who did it. Look at how colours and design fit in with background.
My impression (which has changed a bit in the past few days as a result of what happened in LJ and what I've been reading up on as a result) is that a lot of this scene - in the UK at the moment - is not really 'alienated youth' but kids from relatively affluent backgrounds. And that's also my (slightly surprised) observation of the kids showing up to leave flowers and so on - I passed several groups wandering around last week.
It does look in place, but they are just a graphic, formulaic is about right. Also this One looks unfinished, the shading on Trip is unfinished.
Well I like graphics. Reminded me my brother said there is exhibition of graphics at Somerset House.
I thought the shading being left off Trip was intentional. Meant to look that way. Fits in with the schema.
I was talking about New York.
As a lot of street art and graffiti is underground I wouldn't make assumptions on class background.
Kind of surprised you say this. Is this not making assumptions about a group of people? Something you've criticused me for.
It is I guess. Feel free to criticise as you see appropriate.
The parents of one of the young men appeal to others... Graffiti artist's grieving parents warn others 'not to risk their lives'
I had a long chat with a pair of them on Sunday whilst pulling in our A-boards. They said to me that it was partly to deter damage to the station and mostly to stop anyone else getting up on to the tracks to either fulfill the challenge of tagging whatever was intended or more horribly to stop sympathetic suicide at the same spot.
Thameslink update... as of the 15th July they are introducing an 'emergency' timetable. In common with the rest of the network this means that we will revert to a service that is worse than before the May timetable change. Looks like we will be down to 3 trains per hour instead of 4, with some peak services removed too.
Welcome back. Hope your telling off wasn't too horrible.
I'm not sure that it is worse and I'm not sure LJ isn't down to 3 trains per hour. This timetable doesn't show the Southern trains running through Beckenham Junction. I'm presuming that these are still running?
I don't think so. If you ask nationalrail.co.uk for LGJ-ZFD on Monday morning, there's an 0745, 0800, no 0815, 0830, 0845, no 0915, 0930, 0945, 1000, 1015, no 1030. If you're only going as far as Blackfriars, there's Southeastern 0819, 0849, 0919 to fill the gaps.
That 0830 train is going to be absolute mayhem.
Honestly, how badly do you have to screw up in order to get a franchise taken off you? Wish they'd let TFL give it the overground treatment.
Yes, you're right. I was thinking about the route to Blackfriars. The fillers work, but you need to swap at BF, if you want a through train
They're all Platform 4 stoppers too, so you have to go the long way round.
The situation is currently such that it's impossible to fix it quickly. Whoever took control of the franchise.
NB that if TfL took over, they wouldn't be stepping into Govia's shoes but the DfT's shoes as franchise specifier rather than operator.
Yep - Arriva currently operates the London Overground franchise if that's what you're thinking of
Ah interesting.. didn't realise that!
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