Discussion in 'Brixton' started by teuchter, Sep 15, 2013.
Pretty formulaic like a lot of this stuff.
Tagging as opposed to street art started out on New York subways. A way for alienated youth and those in dead end jobs to get noteriety.
It wasn't connected to art market or done for monetary gain. Partly done at night as people were working in the day.
It wasn't even meant to be that artistic.
Though as one sees above in photos it's become more like high quality graphic design.
I think Instagram etc has changed the game a bit recently.
Social media is fuelling a surge in rail graffiti
The one behind Tesco's is cut above the average. I don't know who did it. Look at how colours and design fit in with background.
My impression (which has changed a bit in the past few days as a result of what happened in LJ and what I've been reading up on as a result) is that a lot of this scene - in the UK at the moment - is not really 'alienated youth' but kids from relatively affluent backgrounds. And that's also my (slightly surprised) observation of the kids showing up to leave flowers and so on - I passed several groups wandering around last week.
It does look in place, but they are just a graphic, formulaic is about right. Also this One looks unfinished, the shading on Trip is unfinished.
Well I like graphics. Reminded me my brother said there is exhibition of graphics at Somerset House.
I thought the shading being left off Trip was intentional. Meant to look that way. Fits in with the schema.
I was talking about New York.
As a lot of street art and graffiti is underground I wouldn't make assumptions on class background.
Kind of surprised you say this. Is this not making assumptions about a group of people? Something you've criticused me for.
It is I guess. Feel free to criticise as you see appropriate.
The parents of one of the young men appeal to others... Graffiti artist's grieving parents warn others 'not to risk their lives'
I had a long chat with a pair of them on Sunday whilst pulling in our A-boards. They said to me that it was partly to deter damage to the station and mostly to stop anyone else getting up on to the tracks to either fulfill the challenge of tagging whatever was intended or more horribly to stop sympathetic suicide at the same spot.
Thameslink update... as of the 15th July they are introducing an 'emergency' timetable. In common with the rest of the network this means that we will revert to a service that is worse than before the May timetable change. Looks like we will be down to 3 trains per hour instead of 4, with some peak services removed too.
Welcome back. Hope your telling off wasn't too horrible.
I'm not sure that it is worse and I'm not sure LJ isn't down to 3 trains per hour. This timetable doesn't show the Southern trains running through Beckenham Junction. I'm presuming that these are still running?
I don't think so. If you ask nationalrail.co.uk for LGJ-ZFD on Monday morning, there's an 0745, 0800, no 0815, 0830, 0845, no 0915, 0930, 0945, 1000, 1015, no 1030. If you're only going as far as Blackfriars, there's Southeastern 0819, 0849, 0919 to fill the gaps.
That 0830 train is going to be absolute mayhem.
Honestly, how badly do you have to screw up in order to get a franchise taken off you? Wish they'd let TFL give it the overground treatment.
Yes, you're right. I was thinking about the route to Blackfriars. The fillers work, but you need to swap at BF, if you want a through train
They're all Platform 4 stoppers too, so you have to go the long way round.
The situation is currently such that it's impossible to fix it quickly. Whoever took control of the franchise.
NB that if TfL took over, they wouldn't be stepping into Govia's shoes but the DfT's shoes as franchise specifier rather than operator.
Yep - Arriva currently operates the London Overground franchise if that's what you're thinking of
Ah interesting.. didn't realise that!
Just read on facebook LJAG page that Cllr Matt Parr has died. That's a shame.
I did know him. He was a loyal longstanding Lambeth Labour party member. I thought he was hardworking Cllr.
To say he was great supporter of Grove adventure playground is going to far. He followed the Lambeth party line on Grove adventure playground.
I'm sorry to hear this. Dealing with the inertia of the council has been frustrating and he was the face of that beaurocracy for me these last couple pf years but he always seemed to mean well and to wish that he could do more than he could. Also leaves behind young children i think.
What happens in this situation, does the person with the next most votes take over ?
Sad to hear this He was a nice man and did mean well and was helpful to me personally when I lived in the ward.
In instances like this there’s usually a by election called.
As colacubes says an election for that one Cllr.
Which is going to be interesting.
The issue I'm not clear on is how Labour party decide who runs. Unfortunately liable to be another party loyalist.
Also will Greens campaign again? They were very active last time around.
Yes well. Personally Matt was nice bloke. I remember bumping into him in the Phoenix years ago. Kept off local politics and discussed Marx.
I would like to see at least one Ward Cllr who will stand up to the bureaucracy ( senior officers plus she who must be obeyed Lib Peck) . That is doubtful. I reckon new Cllrs get shown picture of Rachel. With written underneath this is what will happen to you if you question us.
The Nisa on Coldharbour Lane (opp Co-op) is closing in a couple of weeks, according to the guys in the shop. Nisa shop owners voted to merge with Co-op recently (Nisa also being a cooperative) and they are now stocking Co-op merchandise. Sad news though, as it has been a great independent local shop for years. Not sure if this means the premises will be taken over by Co-op but it is a bigger and more prominent site, so wouldn't be a surprise I guess...
Things seem to have deteriorated in the Nisa recently...not as much of a range of stuff as before, and the vegetable bit often seems to be empty. And the floor tiles are falling apart.
Place like that would make a nice gallery....
I imagine it will be the ward Labour Party. I understand from a mutual acquaintance who is in Momentum and in a ward party in Streatham that of the three constituencies Streatham is the most solidly Progress-led.
This being the case it is possible that you might get a more amenable Labour candidate to vote for. As for the Greens I'm sure they will run, but it would be an industrial effort required to take Coldharbour. Only went other than Labour once since World War II - and that involved literally dozens of Lib Dems canvassing every day for the three weeks before the election - plus the timely news that the Vauxhall Constituency Labour party treasurer Cllr Yomi Igbo had been sent to prison for transferring Labour Party funds into his father's bank account.
Such an unusual co-incidence is unlikely to recur - thought i suppose a flying visit by the current (Green) Lord Mayor of Sheffield might help give the Green candidate a boost
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