Looking for Eric..Cantona at the Ritzy!
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Onket
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I don't like the "I am not a man, I am Cantona" line they keep peddling in the trailers. When I saw one of the programmes that's been on about the film there was a bit of a longer clip and after a pause Cantona breaks into a bit of a laugh & grin which changes the whole situation for me. Much better IMO.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Yeah, that could come across all wrong with a poorly edited trailer.
Onket
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It does IMO.
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
Saw this last Saturday - absolutely excellent.
Believable*, gritty setting - check
Terrifying villains - check
Humour (I loved the bit where Eric the postman only cooked for himself and his stepsons just couldn't believe it) - check
King Eric just looking sexier with age - check
* Ok, apart from the possibility of Eric Cantona sitting in one's bedroom acting as one's life coach.
Believable*, gritty setting - check
Terrifying villains - check
Humour (I loved the bit where Eric the postman only cooked for himself and his stepsons just couldn't believe it) - check
King Eric just looking sexier with age - check
* Ok, apart from the possibility of Eric Cantona sitting in one's bedroom acting as one's life coach.
ska invita
back on the other side
just watched it - Steve Evets, who plays Eric the postie should have a got a shower of awards - absolutely faultless acting
I think he picked up a lifetime achievement award at Cannes the other day. Whatever - surely goes down as Britain's greatest film maker of all time, no? Only criticism is that the films all tend to have very similar story arcs, but he's made so many films and its hard to find a duff one.
I think he picked up a lifetime achievement award at Cannes the other day. Whatever - surely goes down as Britain's greatest film maker of all time, no? Only criticism is that the films all tend to have very similar story arcs, but he's made so many films and its hard to find a duff one.
You're right about the awards - he was great wasn't he? Film of the year imho.
ska invita
back on the other side
Was thinking, the record of standout performances in Ken Loach films cannot be a coincidence. I haven't seen all his films, but lead performances that stand out in my mind (which is not to mention all the great performances by actors is in smaller parts) include:
Peter Mullan as Joe in My Name is Joe
Bruce Jones (never acted before) in Raining Stones
David Bradley (never acted before) as Billy in Kes
and Martin Compston (never acted before) as Laim in Sweet Sixteen
now add Steve Evets to that list. I'm sure there are others.
Ken Loach must deserve credit for getting these performances from these actors, which is not to take away from their personal achievements.
I did see a little show about Ken once, and the two bits that I remember from it was that a lot of the shots, including close-ups and intimate conversations, are taken from a long way away - could be up to 50m, and then a really strong zoom is used. This means actors can act without a camera up their noses, and so produce more naturalistic performances. This cant be done on a small set, but where possible it is.
Also, he withholds the script from actors and trys to get as many natural reactions as possible. For example, in Sweet Sixteen there's a scene where Liam is meant to go and stab someone in the toilet. They practice the stab scene, then go for a take, Martin goes in, then unknown to him all the characters who put him up to it, jump out the stalls and stop him. The reaction of surprise is totally genuine.
i'm sure there are lots more subtle things that go on too, but it really is an incredible achievement the amount of performances that come out of his films.
Peter Mullan as Joe in My Name is Joe
Bruce Jones (never acted before) in Raining Stones
David Bradley (never acted before) as Billy in Kes
and Martin Compston (never acted before) as Laim in Sweet Sixteen
now add Steve Evets to that list. I'm sure there are others.
Ken Loach must deserve credit for getting these performances from these actors, which is not to take away from their personal achievements.
I did see a little show about Ken once, and the two bits that I remember from it was that a lot of the shots, including close-ups and intimate conversations, are taken from a long way away - could be up to 50m, and then a really strong zoom is used. This means actors can act without a camera up their noses, and so produce more naturalistic performances. This cant be done on a small set, but where possible it is.
Also, he withholds the script from actors and trys to get as many natural reactions as possible. For example, in Sweet Sixteen there's a scene where Liam is meant to go and stab someone in the toilet. They practice the stab scene, then go for a take, Martin goes in, then unknown to him all the characters who put him up to it, jump out the stalls and stop him. The reaction of surprise is totally genuine.
i'm sure there are lots more subtle things that go on too, but it really is an incredible achievement the amount of performances that come out of his films.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
I saw this last night too. Most enjoyable... Thanks Scutta for he recomendation. 
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Not sure I'll be able to catch it tonight but saw it at BFI on Southbank and thought it was great. Was also a Q&A with Loach, Evets and... Cantona! I've breathed the same air as Eric Cantona!
*ahem* Anyway, I really liked it as a film, really quite heartwarming in its own way. Must admit I think it's the only Loach film I've seen (I know, I know...).
*ahem* Anyway, I really liked it as a film, really quite heartwarming in its own way. Must admit I think it's the only Loach film I've seen (I know, I know...).
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
Liked it as well,Eric was great in it
,even though he played for the Mancs he was prob one of my all time fav players
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
My flatmate really isn't too keen on football, much to his father's disappoinment. Not in a horrible, bitter way, it's just after having three daughters he finally had a son, but it turned out that son was more interested in the work of Berkoff and Descartes than Ferguson and Giggs
Anyway, despite not being into football too much, one of the few footballers he's always liked was Cantona. Eric was always my favourite footballer too, so when I found out my flatmate liked him I decided that meant I could put a picture of him up in our flat. Still haven't got round to doing it, but it's in my plans
Anyway, despite not being into football too much, one of the few footballers he's always liked was Cantona. Eric was always my favourite footballer too, so when I found out my flatmate liked him I decided that meant I could put a picture of him up in our flat. Still haven't got round to doing it, but it's in my plans
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Was thinking, the record of standout performances in Ken Loach films cannot be a coincidence. I haven't seen all his films, but lead performances that stand out in my mind (which is not to mention all the great performances by actors is in smaller parts) include:
Peter Mullan as Joe in My Name is Joe
Bruce Jones (never acted before) in Raining Stones
David Bradley (never acted before) as Billy in Kes
and Martin Compston (never acted before) as Laim in Sweet Sixteen
now add Steve Evets to that list. I'm sure there are others.
Ken Loach must deserve credit for getting these performances from these actors, which is not to take away from their personal achievements.
I did see a little show about Ken once, and the two bits that I remember from it was that a lot of the shots, including close-ups and intimate conversations, are taken from a long way away - could be up to 50m, and then a really strong zoom is used. This means actors can act without a camera up their noses, and so produce more naturalistic performances. This cant be done on a small set, but where possible it is.
Also, he withholds the script from actors and trys to get as many natural reactions as possible. For example, in Sweet Sixteen there's a scene where Liam is meant to go and stab someone in the toilet. They practice the stab scene, then go for a take, Martin goes in, then unknown to him all the characters who put him up to it, jump out the stalls and stop him. The reaction of surprise is totally genuine.
i'm sure there are lots more subtle things that go on too, but it really is an incredible achievement the amount of performances that come out of his films.
The stand out performance across all his films is Crissy Rock in Ladybird Ladybird
i watched it last night (had it on digi recorder) and at first i thought it was a bit cheesy when Cantona kept appearing and muttering something you could hardly understand but i am glad i persevered with it, the bit where 100 Cantona masked loons smash up the drug dealers mansion is great
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