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How's training going? I went for my first run in months last night... 5k.. nearly killed me and took me ten minutes longer than last time I did it.. (ie 35 mins v 25 mins).. yes I really am that slow! :rolleyes:

But, at least I got out there. Tonight my swimming classes start - swimming lessons in the Total Immersion technique which are being done by the Serpentine tri club... which I'm looking forward to, although as usual I feel a little nervous that people will take one look at me and think I'm a fraud!!

Luckily, swimming is probably my best discipline, so hopefully I won't show myself up too much!! :D

Also, I signed up for a sprint tri in 2 weeks time.. which is probably very ill advised given that I'm struggling to run 5k and haven't cycled any proper distances all winter... however, chances are I won't get in as the deadline for entries passed a few days ago. If I do, I'll treat it as a training session and won't worry if I don't finish..
 
gaijingirl said:
How's training going? I went for my first run in months last night... 5k.. nearly killed me and took me ten minutes longer than last time I did it.. (ie 35 mins v 25 mins).. yes I really am that slow! :rolleyes:

But, at least I got out there. Tonight my swimming classes start - swimming lessons in the Total Immersion technique which are being done by the Serpentine tri club... which I'm looking forward to, although as usual I feel a little nervous that people will take one look at me and think I'm a fraud!!

Luckily, swimming is probably my best discipline, so hopefully I won't show myself up too much!! :D

Also, I signed up for a sprint tri in 2 weeks time.. which is probably very ill advised given that I'm struggling to run 5k and haven't cycled any proper distances all winter... however, chances are I won't get in as the deadline for entries passed a few days ago. If I do, I'll treat it as a training session and won't worry if I don't finish..
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Good luck with the total immersion thing tonight, let us know how it goes.

I was looking at a website about this a few weeks back, I couldn't decide if it was some sort of bizarre scam or not.

I can't swim good at all so was looking at basically learning again. I can breast stroke ok but my crawl is in the Tarzan head out the water style.

I've got to get my first marathon out the way this summer then I'll start thinking about a tri. Thought I'd better get started on the swimming though since I'm starting from a fairly low point.
 
ChrisFilter said:
blimey, this excercise malarky is addictive.. been in the gym for an hour every day, twice today, and 2 hours before work yesterday on a team clever hangover.. getting fit is fun :cool:
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your not wrong there - the endorphins were dancing in my head this morning after my run.

Am not used to feeling so good! :)
 
Granter said:
Good luck with the total immersion thing tonight, let us know how it goes.

I was looking at a website about this a few weeks back, I couldn't decide if it was some sort of bizarre scam or not.

I can't swim good at all so was looking at basically learning again. I can breast stroke ok but my crawl is in the Tarzan head out the water style.

I've got to get my first marathon out the way this summer then I'll start thinking about a tri. Thought I'd better get started on the swimming though since I'm starting from a fairly low point.
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I don't think that TI is a scam.. lots of triathletes I've met swear by it.. especially the blokes. I actually quite like swimming and I think my technique is ok, but my bf doesn't like it so much so we're doing this together... I'll be well pissed off if he gets better than me at swimming though.. he's better than me at everything... :mad:

The head out of the water Tarzan style is very handy for open water swimming when you need to "sight".. with some tris the swim is open water in the sea or a lake or in the case of the London tri in the docks.. so it's very good to be able to lift your head out every now and then to get an idea of where you're doing before you find yourself swimming in circles..

so.. you've kind've got a "headstart".... :D

*gets wetsuit and leaves
 
training has hit a bad patch.. didn't stretch before or after the football, and now I can barely walk :( feels horrible not going to gym, can feel the fat building up and my muscles wasting away..

always stretch is the lesson I've learnt, this is fucking silly..
 
gaijingirl said:
CF.. did you watch the programme on tonight about Jane Tomlinson.. puts it all into perspective really...
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nah, didn't see it! i'm not very good with perspective.. when doing things like this I like to be the centre of my own TV drama. "One fat bastards quest to overcome laziness and borderline alcoholism takes unexpected twist as he manages to jog round park three whole times" run Chris, run! :cool:
 
ChrisFilter said:
haha, is that yes it's a good thing, or yes it's a bad thing?
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v bad. Last weekend I jumpd out of bed, did loads of leg stretching and jumped straight on my bike for a hilly 100k. 50k in I was in total agony with hamstring and gluteus strain on my R side only. Its Wednesday and it still hurts...if you don't want to lose training time do a gentle warm up and then a good 10 minutes of stretches.

If only I followed my own advice:(
 
ChrisFilter said:
damn, this'll be my third day without being in gym then.. undoing all last weeks good work :(
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you don't need to go to the gym every day mate, two a week is easily enough on top of the other running etc you're doing. Don't ramp up the load on your body too fast or you'll really suffer from injuries,
 
30 or 40 mins a day on the bikes, and 20 mins on the rowing machines shouldn't be too much strain though..? wish I'd bloody stretched before football.. what a twat.
 
ChrisFilter said:
30 or 40 mins a day on the bikes, and 20 mins on the rowing machines shouldn't be too much strain though..? wish I'd bloody stretched before football.. what a twat.
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any strain is too much strain if you're not used to it...people (not saying you but people) get obsessed with getting time in at the gym every day and start thinking that if they miss a day they're back to square one...

an essential part of training is recovery - your physiology needs to adapt to the loads placed on it. Miss the recovery phase of training and you make yourself weaker; no energy, depressed immune system open to infection and muscle strain and injury are all more likely. Overtraining.

Make sure you give yourself a day off between sessions and at least one day a week where you do fuck all, put your feet up safe in the knowledge that you're getting stronger doing so! ;)
 
ok, for the next two weeks I'll do every other day, light reps and easy rides on bikes and rowing machines..

bike will take 10 days to build (:(), so gotta get ready for that..
 
Sorry for not replying sooner Chris but I'm banned from using the web at work. :mad:

Chris, nice one for having the balls to give triathlon a go.

I will be at London Tri in August taking on the Olympic distance
(1.5k swim, 40k bike, 10k run). This is my first tri but I am also signed up for Bleinheim sprint tri (750m swim, 20km bike, 5k run) on May 22nd but I'm not sure I'll be ready for it so I might defer to next year...

I'm not an expert at this training business as this is my first year of tri too but some key pieces of advice I would offer:

Put together a training schedule (I use a diary 'borrowed' from work). You can usually download one from various web sites on the web to suit your current standard. This will help keep you focused and organised and less likely to avoid popping into the gym if its raining etc.

Sigmund Fraud is right and don't hung up on training every day. You should give yourself at least one day a week off - more to start with especially if you are out of shape. I also give myself a 'rest week' every month where my schedule is much lighter than normal weeks.

Start easy with short sessions to give your body time to adjust to regular exercise.

Watch your diet. I've cut right back on the booze also.

Swimming was my weakest discipline so I have hired a coach from swimfortri.com who gives me a one hour session a week for £25. As a not very good swimmer these sessions have made a big difference to my stroke. Also, my coach is an experienced age-group triathlete who has given me loads of other advice which is really useful.

I have similar problems with the running to you in that my legs feel like they have been smashed up with a hammer after road sessions so I have been building myself up on the treadmill first.

Gaijingirl is much more of an expert than I am and she gave me some excellent advice before I signed up myself, but if you ever want to PM for whatever reason feel free.

Also I have a web page about all this here.

PS - A bit of a cheeky one but if anyone fancies sponsoring me click here to do so. All funds will go to Great Ormond Street Children's Charity - who could probably really use the money at the moment....

Cheers
 
Cheers for the reply Wire!

Yeah, planning leaving Sat as my day off.. biggest problem is not feeling too dejected and lazy on a day off.. have felt like a sloth not being able to go to gym whilst my hamstrings are tighter than a ducks arse.. feeling a lot better today, so might risk a quick session on the bikes in the gym.

Have quit smoking, and midweek drinking, and trying to eat healthier.. not dieting though. Haven't lost any bloody weight yet though :mad:

What would be the maximum ride you'd do for the first few journeys.. got notions of riding back to my parents in Oxfordshire next weekend, but 50 mile rides probably aren't the best idea ;)

The bloke is Condor Cycles was trying to convince me to join his tri training sessions he's starting in blackheath.. swim, then onto turbo's, then a run.. weekly. £7 a session.. sounded alright, but think I'll need to get the base fitness levels a lot higher first.
 
don't have scales.. just meant I'm still a fat fuck, and whilst I wouldn't expect to be slim and in shape within 10 days, losing a little bit of flab would be nice!
 
ChrisF.. I have a big problem with my weight.. currently at heaviest for about 8 years...which has not been helped by serial dieting/bingeing... but I do find when I train that I tend not to lose weight easily, but I do entirely change my body shape and become more toned, plus I tend to naturally crave healthier foods..

You'll begin to notice the difference really soon I'll bet.
 
bloody hope so... gotta be able to chill on the beach in Italy without wearing a t-shirt ;) wish I could bring my bike to Italy now..

know what you mean though, last summer did loads of excercise and ate healthily cos of football, but was still a fat knacker.. guess I'm just a big bloke.. which sucks. hard.
 
I'm fat as fuck - but had a cholesteral test yesterday - 5.2 upwards is dodgy territory

Relahi weighs in at a decent 4.1!

:o

Which I'm pretty proud of as I eat a lot of junk food......
 
on a rest tip

I got a copy of Joe Friels seminal 'Cyclists training bible' through the post today. Its applicable to Tri too, his training regime is based around a Romanian method developed in the 80s called periodisation (which has since become the mainstay of all athletic training).

I'm just into the book but already shocked by all the things I've been doing wrong :eek: He goes on and on about rest and the importance of a good 7-9 hours every night plus catnaps during the day if you can manage it :eek: Plenty of sleep and upping the training load in increments not larger than 10% a week are recommended. Very good book so far.
 
Just went for a run around Brockwell....


oh dear :( I've really let things slide...

only managed one lap and it was touch and go to finish that.... :eek:

plus I was barely moving..

more work needed I think...
 
Sigmund Fraud said:
I got a copy of Joe Friels seminal 'Cyclists training bible' through the post today. Its applicable to Tri too, his training regime is based around a Romanian method developed in the 80s called periodisation (which has since become the mainstay of all athletic training).

I'm just into the book but already shocked by all the things I've been doing wrong :eek: He goes on and on about rest and the importance of a good 7-9 hours every night plus catnaps during the day if you can manage it :eek: Plenty of sleep and upping the training load in increments not larger than 10% a week are recommended. Very good book so far.
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Actually Sigmund I have the 'Traithlete's training bible' also by Joe Friel.
 
ChrisFilter said:
Cheers for the reply Wire!

Yeah, planning leaving Sat as my day off.. biggest problem is not feeling too dejected and lazy on a day off.. have felt like a sloth not being able to go to gym whilst my hamstrings are tighter than a ducks arse.. feeling a lot better today, so might risk a quick session on the bikes in the gym.

Have quit smoking, and midweek drinking, and trying to eat healthier.. not dieting though. Haven't lost any bloody weight yet though :mad:

What would be the maximum ride you'd do for the first few journeys.. got notions of riding back to my parents in Oxfordshire next weekend, but 50 mile rides probably aren't the best idea ;)

The bloke is Condor Cycles was trying to convince me to join his tri training sessions he's starting in blackheath.. swim, then onto turbo's, then a run.. weekly. £7 a session.. sounded alright, but think I'll need to get the base fitness levels a lot higher first.
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Another thing Joe Friel emphasises in his book is that the safest and best way to improve form is lots of very small levels of improvement over a long period rather than starting in July and going mad for example.

You want to 'peak' in August. As its only March you can afford to start slowly and build up slowly over the months.

Don't feel like a sloth on your rest day. When your body rests that is when it is actually getting stronger. This is why Friel says getting a good nights sleep and a nap in the day can be very beneficial.

If you have a bad injury you should let it rest imho. You still have plenty of time to get ready and you don't want to risk aggravating it and making it worse which will rule you out of the event.

As for your 50 mile bike antics I'm not sure how much you cycle or what kind route you will be taking. If you cycle regularly then I would say it was fine. Make sure you have plenty of liquid with you and food as required.

I also read 220 triathlon magazine which I get loads of useful tips and advice from which might be worth a punt.

This Condor cycle thing could be a good bet later on. Does he then want you to do swim, bike, run in the same sessions? I think that its too early to think about these 'brick' sessions as they are known, but you could think about doing them nearer the event.
 
Chris.. Kubs and I've also signed up for a series of training half days which take place in Dulwich. If you're interested let me know and I'll send you the details. Each one runs from about 8:30am to 1:30pm..there's five sessions and it's £90 for the lot...

The TI swimming was fun but a bit mad.. the lady who takes the class can only be really be described as one of those older extremely English, very eccentric women that you don't come across very often..

Mad. as. cheese.

I found it a bit disconcerting to be taught how to breath under water when I can already swim, but the point is that she's "deconstructing" our strokes to rebuild them... so we'll see... :confused:

Meanwhile I've signed up for the Thames Turbo sprint (in Hampton) in about 10 days time.. which is a bit foolhardy since I can barely run 5k at the moment. However, I did send the cheque and application form way after the deadline so I prolly won't get in anyway..if I do.. well I guess I'll just have to do my best... someone's gotta come last right? :D
 
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