London smoker-friendly pubs thread
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Lisarocket
In bed with me dinner
rutabowa said:
That is so funny. Loads of people on the internet in their own houses not smoking because the don't and posting about not smoking in a 'smoke free' internet environment
Can we have our thread back now please...
Louloubelle
Well-Known Member
Lisarocket said:That is so funny. Loads of people on the internet in their own houses not smoking because the don't and posting about not smoking in a 'smoke free' internet environment
Can we have our thread back now please...
Someone else who seems to have totally got the wrong end of the stick about smoke free groups.
The idea of smoke free groups is to share information about where there are smoke free events happening so that people who can't tolerate or just don't like smoke can go out and enjoy some live music / DJs / whatever.
Also people can send emails warning others about public places that are really smoky to let others know so that they can avoid them if possible.
I would have thought that was obvious, but clearly it passed people by.
Obviously people will no longer need to know where they can go for smoke free entertainment as all enclosed venues are now smoke free.
Ironically I used to let people know about outdoor music festies as, even though people smoke at them, it's not as bad as enclosed smoking areas. Now, instead of outdoor events being the main music events of the week for people who don't like smoke, they have now become the smokiest events and so will probably be avoided by most people who can't tolerate smoke.
Here's your thread back but I think you would do well to do something similar for smokers, you can even pass on details of smoky pubs if you want as it's only going to be smokers who read your group's messages. It would take 2 minutes to set up and would be a lot more effective than trying to do it on a message board.
Nonsense, Louloubelle. This thread would have worked perfectly well if you hadn't insisted on evangelising all over it!
e2a: In fairness you're not the only one, but you're by far the most persistent.
Look, I appreciate your medical problem and I'm genuinely sorry about your mum, but I've no patience with evangelists, especially when their first post on here was misplaced. I know you said it wasn't a personal attack, but it did look a little like one, and it was, as I said, misdirected. I did ridicule the idea of a smoking ban when it was first mooted, and I was wrong to do so. I fully accept that smoking is a pretty antisocial habit, and a harmful one, although it does frustrate me that some people seem to have got it out of proportion and forgotten than the effect of smoke is cumulative: continuous exposure to it is not going to do you any good, whereas the odd whiff is unlikely to do anyone any measurable harm at all.
That's why I came round to the view I now hold, which is that smoking should be restricted, but that a blanket ban is overly draconian. I don't see what harm a separate, ventilated smoking room in pubs etc would do, given that staff would have to spend a minimal amount of time in there. Nor do I believe it would fill up with non-smokers selfishly dragged in there by smoking friends: I and most smokers I know happily go to non-smoking venues with non-smoking friends, and go outside for a fag when we feel like it. I can't agree with banning smoking in the street either: there is pretty much no evidence that in the open air tobacco smoke is harmful to non-smokers, and you can't legislate on the basis of not liking something.
There you go. I've stated my position. I hope you can respect that, and I also hope you can accept that those of us who do smoke might want to share info on places that have good facilities for us to do so, and that maybe, just maybe, we're not up for being moralised at whilst doing so!
e2a: In fairness you're not the only one, but you're by far the most persistent.
Look, I appreciate your medical problem and I'm genuinely sorry about your mum, but I've no patience with evangelists, especially when their first post on here was misplaced. I know you said it wasn't a personal attack, but it did look a little like one, and it was, as I said, misdirected. I did ridicule the idea of a smoking ban when it was first mooted, and I was wrong to do so. I fully accept that smoking is a pretty antisocial habit, and a harmful one, although it does frustrate me that some people seem to have got it out of proportion and forgotten than the effect of smoke is cumulative: continuous exposure to it is not going to do you any good, whereas the odd whiff is unlikely to do anyone any measurable harm at all.
That's why I came round to the view I now hold, which is that smoking should be restricted, but that a blanket ban is overly draconian. I don't see what harm a separate, ventilated smoking room in pubs etc would do, given that staff would have to spend a minimal amount of time in there. Nor do I believe it would fill up with non-smokers selfishly dragged in there by smoking friends: I and most smokers I know happily go to non-smoking venues with non-smoking friends, and go outside for a fag when we feel like it. I can't agree with banning smoking in the street either: there is pretty much no evidence that in the open air tobacco smoke is harmful to non-smokers, and you can't legislate on the basis of not liking something.
There you go. I've stated my position. I hope you can respect that, and I also hope you can accept that those of us who do smoke might want to share info on places that have good facilities for us to do so, and that maybe, just maybe, we're not up for being moralised at whilst doing so!
maggot I agree it hasn't helped but please keep posting them, my sanity depends on it.
ps The dolphin in south street eastbourne has a yard with one umbrella. Landlady said that takings were down a little but as they were one of the few gastro pubs in eastbourne it hadn't affected her to much. She added that the more traditional pubs without gardens had suffered an awful week.
ps The dolphin in south street eastbourne has a yard with one umbrella. Landlady said that takings were down a little but as they were one of the few gastro pubs in eastbourne it hadn't affected her to much. She added that the more traditional pubs without gardens had suffered an awful week.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
editor said:
why? Residential area I assume?
Is this how residents near to pubs are going to try to get round this now?
editor
hiraethified
Yep. I wanted to put on some acoustic acts in the garden at one of the Offlines there, but it was a no-go because of their licensing restrictions.Minnie_the_Minx said:why? Residential area I assume?
Is this how residents near to pubs are going to try to get round this now?
To be honest, I think it's going to be a bit of a pain until the winter: in the Albert last night everyone was packed in the outside areas with the interior something of a ghost town.
Non smokers found themselves joining the smokers (for fear of being stuck inside on their lonesome) but at least the smoke disperses better outside.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
editor said:
Nothing worse than people who move into a road where a pub is located and moan about the noise
I heard the Albert was practically deserted inside.
As I was saying to a friend tonight, "there'd be a lot more seats out here if all the non-smokers went inside and enjoyed the fresh air"
the button
out on the kocker
The Prospect of Whitby in Wapping. They've spent a bit of money on the outside area, installing a retractable canopy, and heaters. Lovely pub & lovely beers as well. 
corporate whore
oh, thought you were dead
The Lion, Church Street, Stoke Newington - nice yard out back, nice beers on tap.
