London Overground - TFL takes over North London Line
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g force
Affects Shatner's Basoon
But Southern streches all the way to Hastings! And if that was the plan why not bid for Thameslink, which would have made more sense than Southern. Instead we get First Crapital and their pink interiors.
Methinks Ken should concentrate first on improving the stuff he already controls.
Methinks Ken should concentrate first on improving the stuff he already controls.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Southern used to be run by a private company called "Southcentral". They performed so badly that the government was forced into a position where it had to ask the then Railtrack to operate the network. But that part of the network is a real mess of lines and junctions. The gov't had to do the same thing with South Eastern
Crispy said:This should break the page.
I coloured the affected lines (and the ELLE) in orange so you can put it in the context of the tube.
Looking at the ELLE. Are they really going to re-open the old spur line just after Surrey Quays (going south). I believe it used to lead to a stop on Old Kent Road. Been wondering what all the work was.
Also, I had understood that the route would run south from New Cross Gate and join the mainline there.
citydreams
on the road again
Combined with pub crawl. Need to get some photos of the older stations as I reckon they'll be changed or even worse, closed 
Heard that Wapping might be in doubtnino_savatte said:
Not quite!,
Connex South Central were the first firm to operate both South Central and South Eastern.
Connex initially lost the South Central franchise to Go-Via. They then handed the franchise over early, rather than hang on to it for a year and a bit until the new franchise began. So Go-Via took over early using the interim name of South Central Trains. The franchise was intially going to be for 20 years, but was cut back to 7. Then when the franchise started proper, they changed the operating name to Southern.
As to Connex South Eastern, Connex were experiencing financial trouble in addition to being crap! So the DfT took over and ran it under the new name of South Eastern, things really improved, but despite efforts by the RMT and passengers it was re-privatised and won by Go-Via.
As an aside, Connex is now back in the UK, now operating under their parent company name of Veolia.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
minkboy said:
I knew I'd forgotten part of their name...Connex...I always thought it was rather poor.
g force
Affects Shatner's Basoon
citydreams said:
Sorting out proper ventiliation on the existing network. Getting new rolling stock introduced, absorbing the Metronet fiasco etc. I'm not against the idea in theory but TFL is already streched as it is.
Wapping Station is ace...the sound of running water is both brilliant and disturbing.
citydreams
on the road again
g force said:
I agree that there are plenty of other issues that should be a higher priority. I disagree that TfL can not manage to focus on all them as a whole without acting negligently as your post implies.
TfL will be stretched for a long time yet. Taking on the overground services should save money as planning is taking into account the whole of the network rather than trying to form a compromise with Train Operation Compaines resulting in delays, admin costs and potential legal challenges.
