TobaccoSmuggle
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Boris IMO
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Boris is a living legend
London Mayoral Election- new poll
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KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
I'm prob going to vote for the candidate most likely to get rid of Livingslime. Sadly this is Boris. As much as I would have preferred Paddick it is imperitive that Livingslime is removed from the mayoralty as soon as possible.
I'm going to have to vote Tory for the first time in my life so that I can get rid of a shit politician. What a fucking choice to have to make.
I'm going to have to vote Tory for the first time in my life so that I can get rid of a shit politician. What a fucking choice to have to make.
I voted Ken last time, and since then I've been stung with a £60 congestion fine for driving through London on Christmas fucking EVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought there would have been a break over Christmas starting from Christmas EVE! but no no no!
I vowed to vote for Boris after then in a fit of pique, but it's not going to happen. In the polling booth my hand wouldn't allow it.
Lib Dems might get my vote, is there anyone else running? I could also spoil my paper.
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
I was talking to someone tonight whose company paid Boris to stand up and be witty after they'd all had their tea. This is common practice in the world of finance, apparently. There was a Q&A after Boris had anecdoted for the requisite twenty mins, and someone asked him which mayor, of which city, he most admired.
His immediate response: "The one from Amity. In Jaws. Three shark deaths - exercised sound judgement - hushed it up - kept the tourism industry running - wise chap."
His immediate response: "The one from Amity. In Jaws. Three shark deaths - exercised sound judgement - hushed it up - kept the tourism industry running - wise chap."
he does make me giggle.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
I've got one reason to vote anyway - at least in the GLA elections which are the same day as the Mayoral ones. Last time out the BNP missed out on getting an Assembly seat by the merest whisker - the threshold is 5%, they got 4.71%.
Any vote you cast (except for them obviously!) will effectively reduce their percentage vote by 1/20th of one vote - I think that's right - basically if 19x more (+1) people vote for anyone else than vote for the BNP they don't get a seat. I've tried to work out whether you can enhance this effect by voting for one of the parties that will most likely lose a seat to the BNP (the Greens, the One London Slightly Odd Party, the Lib-Dems) but my brain started to melt down about half way through my second application of the de Hondt formula to the 4th round of adjusted seats. Or something.
But just voting could be the Right Thing To Do. Jesus the publicity those arses would get out of a GLA seat, in London for god's sake...isn't this supposed to be some futuroid world-city or something?
/sermon.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
You can still register if you are over 18, live in London and are a British, Commonwealth or EU citizen.
The closing date is 16th April, loads of time.
The traditional lazy way to do it is to contact one of the parties and tell them you want to vote for them but you're not registered. The real keeny-beans will appear at your front door within a few days with all the paperwork and a pen and just about all you have to do it write your name and address and sign.
Then vote for whoever you want obviously...
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Yes, so we keep on being told. And told. And told ...
Shame the "futuroid world-city" it closest resembles is the one from Bladerunner.
Harold Hill
Jay Emm forgot his p/word
Well I'm not the access is better on jam packed bendies whose frequencies have been pushed back. Maybe a new RM is more practical against tram schemes that are never going to happen.
Ironic also that the RM is considered old fashioned when in the 50s, people said that about trams which are now the way forward in the 20th century.
Who do you vote for if you don't like Boris but really really hate Ken?
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
I will be voting for Ken because I think he is the best candidate and that he has demonstrated a genuine commitment to London. I don't honestly get all the anti Ken stuff on here and elsewhere, frankly. Of course I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I agree with a lot of what he says and does, in particular, the difference he has made to the frequency and cost of the bus services. Boris is a bonkers celebrity and it scares me to think we might end up with him as Mayor. Brian is a sweetie and a committed police officer, and I have huge respect for him and the stance he adopted when he was a police officer, but that's all. He doesn't even clearly come across as being a dedicated Liberal Democrat, never mind a politician with a clear vision. It seems to me that a lot of the supposed allegations of sleaze are against employees rather than politicians, so any incoming Mayor would still have to deal with these, if there was any truth in them. I am not even sure if Ken was directly involved in the appointment of these guys...
So, my first vote will be for Ken. I don't know who will get my second vote. I may not put a second preference vote.
I do agree that the voting system has failed to be transparent, though. I am a Presiding Officer, and the GLA/Mayoral elections are the ones which lead to the most confusion. I do hope they are taking on more poll clerks this time than they did before, to allow time for us to answer all the questions and deal with all the confusion from the voters!
I also agree that the routemasters should not be brought back into common usage. They are clearly unsafe, outdated and inaccessible. They still run on a couple of tourist routes, so you can see them in central London. I also do think, though, that we should get rid of those awful bendy buses in favour of double deckers. The bendy buses are just unbelievably awful, in every way, including the way they block up the access to the bus station at Victoria, because only a couple of them can get in, when we need a lot more than just a couple on the road, to ensure an efficient service.
So, my first vote will be for Ken. I don't know who will get my second vote. I may not put a second preference vote.
I do agree that the voting system has failed to be transparent, though. I am a Presiding Officer, and the GLA/Mayoral elections are the ones which lead to the most confusion. I do hope they are taking on more poll clerks this time than they did before, to allow time for us to answer all the questions and deal with all the confusion from the voters!
I also agree that the routemasters should not be brought back into common usage. They are clearly unsafe, outdated and inaccessible. They still run on a couple of tourist routes, so you can see them in central London. I also do think, though, that we should get rid of those awful bendy buses in favour of double deckers. The bendy buses are just unbelievably awful, in every way, including the way they block up the access to the bus station at Victoria, because only a couple of them can get in, when we need a lot more than just a couple on the road, to ensure an efficient service.
Harold Hill
Jay Emm forgot his p/word
Because ken winning probably means we get him for another 8 years.
Boris probably wouldn't even stand again let alone win a second term and would be gone by the time the Olympic wagon moves into town.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
I don't understand that.
People are against Ken because he might win? How does that make sense?
Besides, the Olympic wagon is already "in town", and the flame itself comes here at the end of the 2008 ones, doesn't it?
newbie
undisambiguated
I'm baffled by your attitude tbh. Even the language is revealing
Boris the cuddly one
Paddick the neutral one
Livingslime the hate figure
I accept that Paddick is irrelevant but what has Johnscum (see, I can do it too
) got to say about the London Living Wage ?? (pdf alert). Is he in favour, are you?
"As in previous years, this report takes a systematic approach to identifying what is a
living wage in London. It shows how someone paid less than about £6.25 an hour will
be on the threshold of poverty, even after benefits and tax credits are taken into
account. This means that in London, largely because of housing costs, you need an
hourly wage rate almost 20 per cent above the National Minimum Wage (NMW) rate of
£5.35 just to take you above the poverty level. However this provides no margin to
meet the kind of day-to-day challenges those of us who are better off can afford to
shrug off. As before, a margin of 15 per cent has therefore been added to the poverty
threshold wage. The result is a London Living Wage of £7.20 per hour - an increase of
2.1 per cent on last year's figure and a 7.5 per cent increase in the two years since its
introduction. About one in seven of London's full-time workers and almost half of our
part-time workers are paid at a rate below this Living Wage. These figures give some
idea of the scale of the challenge facing us."
Harold Hill
Jay Emm forgot his p/word
I don't understand that.
People are against Ken because he might win? How does that make sense?
Besides, the Olympic wagon is already "in town", and the flame itself comes here at the end of the 2008 ones, doesn't it?
If Ken wins this time, he'll probably win again in four years as I can't see a likeable high profile Tory putting him or herself up.
If Boris wins, he'll have one term tops. He'll have a different set of anti mayor press on his back for 4 years and I reckon he wouldn't stand again.
If you don't want an arrogant opportunist nob in charge, you might have to wait 4 years but thats the best alternative I can see at the moment. It would be great to think Paddick had a chance as he seems less party political but I can't see it at the moment.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
I think Ken is the best option out of the three of them, as Mayor of London. However, if he does win again, perhaps the Tories will realise that they need to put up a more credible candidate to oppose him, rather than a bumbling comedy buffoon? I don't think it is a given that Ken will win again, if he wins this time.
Are you saying that Ken is an "arrogant opportunist nob", or are you meaning that they all are?
Iguana
Well-Known Member
That's what I'm doing. Am I right that you only get two preferences? Otherwise I'd go green, Brian, Ken.
I miss Ireland.
I put Boris as a laugh but I'd vote for Brian.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
LOL! I wonder what Brian would give to have these numbers replicated in the real election!
Stobart Stopper
Well-Known Member
According to a poll, in today's Evening Standard they are reporting that he's gaining more support.
( I dont vote )
but its scarey how many people seem to be favoring Boris as mayor- off this MB anyway - Normal. Sane, Logical-ish people - seeing him as an affable bumbler who may bring some levity to the leadership process - the fact he a right wing fuck seems to have got lost somewhere in their reasoning
but its scarey how many people seem to be favoring Boris as mayor- off this MB anyway - Normal. Sane, Logical-ish people - seeing him as an affable bumbler who may bring some levity to the leadership process - the fact he a right wing fuck seems to have got lost somewhere in their reasoning
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Gaining more support amongst who?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Trumpeters
Stobart Stopper
Well-Known Member
Go away Butch, you yokel.
Just to remind everyone that the voting system means that a winning candidate will in practice be either Paddick or Livingstone.
Why?
Well if the final round is Livingstone vs. Paddick then far more of Johnson's second preference votes will go to Brian than to Livingstone. (Last time the Lib Dems got 24% of second preferences vs 13% for Ken). Hence Brian would win or come a very close second.
But if the final round is Livingstone versus Johnson then more of Brian's second preferences are likely to go to Livingstone than Johnson (as happened the last two times).
So basically you should vote for your favorite candidate first preference - and your second favorite candidate second preference.
Why?
Well if the final round is Livingstone vs. Paddick then far more of Johnson's second preference votes will go to Brian than to Livingstone. (Last time the Lib Dems got 24% of second preferences vs 13% for Ken). Hence Brian would win or come a very close second.
But if the final round is Livingstone versus Johnson then more of Brian's second preferences are likely to go to Livingstone than Johnson (as happened the last two times).
So basically you should vote for your favorite candidate first preference - and your second favorite candidate second preference.
Brian's up 4% in one poll and 6% in the other.
Livingstone & Johnson are both down in the Yougov poll. The other poll can't really be compared for various reasons (though if you did they'd both be down quite a lot)
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Heh there's some real urban75 'over hope' going on about their fave candidate. I wouldn't invest too much hope in him winning...
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
That might also have something to do with a general disatisfaction that is building about Livingstone. People who wouldn't otherwise vote Tory or in fact vote at all are so concerned that the are plumping for the candidate most likely to rid the city of Livingstone.
Harold Hill
Jay Emm forgot his p/word
Some of us just really don't want Livingstone.
Although I'm not necessarily voting for him of course.
Harold Hill
Jay Emm forgot his p/word
Did anyone see the trams for Oxford Street thing in the Standard?
I really don't get this - if the point of pedestrianisation is free up space in a busy pedestrian area, then where would the benefit be? There would be no extra space for pedestrians and most people can walk end to end in about 15 minutes. I realise there is mobility issues but buses along Wigmore St and full disabled access for the tube along the route may well fix that.
I really don't get this - if the point of pedestrianisation is free up space in a busy pedestrian area, then where would the benefit be? There would be no extra space for pedestrians and most people can walk end to end in about 15 minutes. I realise there is mobility issues but buses along Wigmore St and full disabled access for the tube along the route may well fix that.
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