London Mayoral Election- new poll

[beeboo]

How many people a year were ever hurt on/by them? If it was ever that high surely there'd been a media thing about it? I don't remember any particularly big media outrage over them...

I don't think they were ever death-traps exactly - yes there were fatalities but there are fatalities associated with all modes of transport. However they are *more* dangerous than other buses. Anyway, it's the access for people with disabilities which is the main problem.

I don't think bendy buses are more dangerous than routemasters, but we hear a lot about any incidents involving bendys because the media has taken a dislike to them. Everyone loves the routemaster so is willing to overlook a few people killing themselves falling off the back

 

[dream_girl]

Ken

 

[Kid_Eternity]

However they are *more* dangerous than other buses.

Well if you say they are it must be true! Forgive me for asking for some back up to these factless assertions...

 

[Streathamite]

Brian, cos ken seems in danger of losing it, mega-time, but also because he encouraged scabbing, which is unforgiveable

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Brian, cos ken seems in danger of losing it, mega-time, but also because he encouraged scabbing, which is unforgiveable

What's Brian's policy on striking workers?

 

[beeboo]

Well if you say they are it must be true! Forgive me for asking for some back up to these factless assertions...

Erm read my earlier post?

Or:

http://dspace.lboro.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/2134/541/1/AR2097.pdf (pg27)

Or:

http://www.london.gov.uk/gla/pqt/20071025/transcript3.jsp

Or:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/t2621h0503787781/



I know that's got to stand up against the robust safety record demonstrated by the fact that you've personally been using them since you were 10 without injury. But I think I might just swing it.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Erm read my earlier post?

Or:

http://dspace.lboro.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/2134/541/1/AR2097.pdf (pg27)

Or:

http://www.london.gov.uk/gla/pqt/20071025/transcript3.jsp

Or:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/t2621h0503787781/



I know that's got to stand up against the robust safety record demonstrated by the fact that you've personally been using them since you were 10 without injury. But I think I might just swing it.

Yeah well I'm a bit of a daredevil compared to the average bus user...

 

[beeboo]

Yeah well I'm a bit of a daredevil compared to the average bus user...

Kid Eternity yesterday

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Kid Eternity yesterday

Actually it's more like:

 

[Stobart Stopper]

What's Brian's policy on striking workers?

I think he used to use a baseball bat on the Commissioner when he misbehaved.

 

[scott_forester]

Brian then Boris.

 

[detective-boy]

Don't see the point in voting. I don't like any of the candidates' politics, and fifteen months from now I won't be in London to be affected by them anyway.

It's always important to vote - it's the only time we get to say anything at all. It's not perfect (anything but!) but it's all we've got, and it gives messages way beyond simply who gets in. If you don't vote you really can't moan about any decisions made on your behalf, any more than you can moan about having to eat Chinese again when the other half asked what you fancied and you just shrugged and went "Don't mind" ...

And it's important to vote where you are on the day (not least because you can't vote where you're going to be tomorrow!)

(Where you going, anyway?)

 

[detective-boy]

Brian then Ken. Have never and will never vote Tory (and even if I did I think I'd find the idea of Johnson as mayor too fucking freaky anyway - the man's a prick). Don't really want Ken back (he's clearly been around too long and his coterie are beginning to fall apart - stand by for ever more sleaze now some stones are being lifted ...) but will have to put up withg him if Brian doesn't make it.

Not sure how Brian will cope if he does get it, but, hey, the world seems to have continued in the councils which have been liberal for years, so let's give it a go. One things for sure - he'll take it seriously.

 

[Brian]

No risk in voting for Brian instead of Ken

This is how the voting system works (I think!):

Everybody gets two votes, first and second preference.

If no candidate gets more than 50% in the first round (no-one ever does), all but the top two candidates are eliminated.

The second preferences of those who voted for the eliminated candidates then come into play.

Three possible scenarios:

If the last two standing are Ken and Boris, Ken will win. People who vote for me and who vote Green (the next two most popular) are unlikely to vote for Boris as second preference and Ken will win.

If the last two standing are Ken amd me, I will win. People who vote for Boris (the next most popular) will never vote for Ken as second preference but are likely to vote for me and I will win.

If the last two standing are Boris and me, I will win. People who vote for Ken will never vote for Boris and are likely to vote for me as second preference so I will win.

If you have to vote Ken (someone has to ) make sure you put me second preference or Boris might get in).

So, vote Boris 1st preference - get Ken. Vote Brian 1st preference - get Brian!

When I last saw Ken he said to me "I've got to make sure Boris comes second, haven't I."

"Brian's not a naughty boy - he's the Mayor!"

 

[Stobart Stopper]

I happen to think the Mayoral election could be settled by getting all the candidates to run the London Marathon, which is a month before. It would save lots of money. And it would be a laugh, imagine Boris huffing and puffing after half a mile, Ken would probably find a pub.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

People who vote for me and who vote Green (the next two most popular) are unlikely to vote for Boris as second preference and Ken will win.

Presumably you've got ace psephologists working on this, but that's surprising. I'm voting for you with BoJo second, and so are quite a few of my friends. Don't your people see a sizeable anti-Ken base that would drive multiple preference combinations of non-Ken candidates?

 

[Brian]

Vote for Brian

I'm not sure I understand but what I would urge everyone is vote for Brian. Stobbart, I AM RUNNING THE LONDON MARATHON! I have challenged the other two but no offers! I am supporting an aids charity (one of my previous partners is HIV+), stroke association (my father effectively died of a stroke) and Down's syndrome (my nephew has Down's). Public announcement soon! You heard it here first!

 

[scott_forester]

I'm not sure I understand but what I would urge everyone is vote for Brian. Stobbart, I AM RUNNING THE LONDON MARATHON! I have challenged the other two but no offers! I am supporting an aids charity (one of my previous partners is HIV+), stroke association (my father effectively died of a stroke) and Down's syndrome (my nephew has Down's). Public announcement soon! You heard it here first!

Good luck, hope you get it, if not I hope you become an MP.

 

[Stobart Stopper]

I'm not sure I understand but what I would urge everyone is vote for Brian. Stobbart, I AM RUNNING THE LONDON MARATHON! I have challenged the other two but no offers! I am supporting an aids charity (one of my previous partners is HIV+), stroke association (my father effectively died of a stroke) and Down's syndrome (my nephew has Down's). Public announcement soon! You heard it here first!

I know you are running it, you told me ages ago!



Have you got some sort of online sponsorship set up for your marathon yet? I will put a donation in.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

http://sianformayor.org.uk/

 

[Prince Rhyus]

Ken...Ken...Ken...Goran-Eriksson.
And with all our nightclubs, will scare them with a rave
And with Martin Keown, we'll scare them with his face

Sven-Sven-Sven-Goran-Livingstone.
He's-a socialist
And-he-is-the-pride-of-london.

Nought-nought-nought-who-reads-the-daily-sport.​

Not registered here so have no vote.

 

[PacificOcean]

Do you think Boris has done enough Have I got News For You shows in the past to get the casual voter who thinks "Ooo. I've seen him on the telly", like Arnie in California?

 

[paolo]

Do you think Boris has done enough Have I got News For You shows in the past to get the casual voter who thinks "Ooo. I've seen him on the telly", like Arnie in California?

I really really hope not. A sad day for London if that's how it works out.

 

[Socket]

Brian. Ken will win but any vote for an openly gay candidate could send an important message about this 'ere city. A Muslim lesbian would send out a bigger message, but none of the candidates are Muslim lesbians!

 

[Meltingpot]

http://sianformayor.org.uk/

Agreed, and the only one I'd like to snog

 

[the button]

Not voting.

Me neither.

 

[beeboo]

Presumably you've got ace psephologists working on this, but that's surprising. I'm voting for you with BoJo second, and so are quite a few of my friends. Don't your people see a sizeable anti-Ken base that would drive multiple preference combinations of non-Ken candidates?

I can't believe people are so anti-Ken they'd rather have Boris! Why not vote Green or something as second preference rather than Boris?

 

[Prince Rhyus]

This is how the voting system works (I think!)...:

This is more than half the battle with the voters - trying to educate them in the electoral process.

I've worked in the Civil Service for coming up to 4 years and the amount of political ignorance there is out there is astonishing. Very few know about the conventions that underpin the relationship between constituent, MP, minister and civil service.

The other thing about the London Assembly is that I do wonder how effective it is. (How effective is it?)

Also Brian, do people standing for Mayor also stand for a constituency in the London Assembly or is it "Mayor or nothing"? Any prospect of you becoming a Parliamentarian? I was having a chat with my landlady (a copper) about the lack of people in Parliament with experience in the frontline public services. How many ex-servicemen, firefighters, nurses, doctors, police offices and teachers are there in Parliament and politics in general?

 

[Maurice Picarda]

How many ex-servicemen, firefighters, nurses, doctors, police offices and teachers are there in Parliament and politics in general?

There are quite a few ex-teachers, including Jacqui Smith.

 

[detective-boy]

Very few ex-coppers. Whilst serving it is (quite rightly I think) a disciplinary offence to take an active part in politics ... but that means that you start very late if you want to get on the local councillor / MP / government minister ladder. Quite a few get on to councils but few become MPs or ministers.

Recently a few Lords have come from a police background - Imbert, Condon and Stevens as ex-Commissioners, Mackenzie as an ex-leader of the Superintendents Association.