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London Gentrification

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by Belushi, May 30, 2015.

  1. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

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  2. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    wheres the end point here. Call me thick but someones got to sell the hotdogs, clean the bogs, drive the bus etc.

    If you've moved all the low paid people out to the back of beyond, then what. Robots or some shit.
     
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  3. quimcunx

    quimcunx Too tall.

    You don't need to move them out. They can't afford the rent + commute costs anyway. More overcrowding is where it's at.

    And more and more jobs replaced by robots.
     
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  4. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    People living 12 to a room, which is already happening anyway :(
     
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  5. DownwardDog

    DownwardDog Riding a Brompton with a power meter.

    It'll just be more like the London of the 19th C. when people would sublet 12 sq. ft. of floorboard to complete strangers, etc.
     
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  6. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    Last edited: May 30, 2015
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  7. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    Some of the quotes from estate agents :facepalm:

     
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  8. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    I see what people are saying re just stuff em in like sardines and build ever higher etc. Recipe for to bring back the London Mob. It'll burn again! /doom
     
  9. 19sixtysix

    19sixtysix μεθαύριο

    SLUMS is where it's at Tory Slums!
     
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  10. Yossarian

    Yossarian free shrugs

    I guess the end point is that people who are going to clean toilets etc. for minimum wage or below will have hour-long bus commutes added to their lives - might even be government-subsidized buses because that'd be cheaper and easier than building affordable housing or asking big companies to pay a living wage.
     
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  11. Celyn

    Celyn Well-Known Member

    Gosh, the natives sound ever so picturesque and quaint. :hmm:
     
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  12. Thimble Queen

    Thimble Queen Well-Known Member

    Belushi reading that last quote makes me wonder if they get done over would they still feel the same way. There's a bit of hoping there too.
     
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  13. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

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  14. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

  15. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

  16. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Subterranean dormitories for workers; the non-working poor liquidated and used as fertiliser or pig-feed; The wealthy living in a greater London remodelled into a giant parkland with occasional grand houses staffed by dormitory-dwellers.
     
  17. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    And right-wing shit-suckers such as yourself will be in there, hiring out the square footage to the poor.
     
  18. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    I think you're right, except for "build higher". I think that future-London will be remodelled as a playground for the wealthy, without conspicuous pov housing. They'll try to turn us into Morlocks.
     
  19. Maurice Picarda

    Maurice Picarda Actually, might as well flounce.

    But basements are essential playgrounds for Eloi wealth creators. They are needed for swimming pools, underground cinemas, and gyms. The days when Morlocks could be coddled in expensive subterranean facilities are long gone. No, the dormitories will have to be out of town.
     
  20. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

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  22. Flavour

    Flavour hang the bankers

    rent until you die
     
  23. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    This is not necessarily a bad thing.
     
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  24. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

    A question for all you Londoners - is there going to be a point with all this where you say "I've had enough" and move out? Or can you see a point in the future where you simply won't have a choice?

    Or is the lure of London strong enough that you'll find a way to stay whatever the cost/bullshit?
     
  25. Maurice Picarda

    Maurice Picarda Actually, might as well flounce.

    It's a question to renters, rather than home owners, presumably?
     
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  26. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

    Primarily, yeah. But I guess the prospect of selling up and getting away from a rapidly changing London might appeal to some homeowners as well. Sell a 2 bed flat and get a 4 bed house with a garden etc
     
  27. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    If I were 22 again and looking to move to a big city I don't think I'd choose London, it's much tougher for young people to get established than it was when I moved here 20 years ago.

    Fortunately I have a nice flat, job I enjoy etc and still enjoy living here - but I hate seeing so many people priced out and so many friends forced out of their neighbourhoods.
     
  28. Maurice Picarda

    Maurice Picarda Actually, might as well flounce.

    I've got a 4 bed house with a garden. And rising property prices mean that I'm more likely to keep adding bits to it (posh shed? basement dig-out?) so that my kids have somewhere to live in their twenties, than I am to move out. I wouldn't want to leave London until I was properly retired, and that's thirty years away.
     
  29. BigMoaner

    BigMoaner Don't kill the lion

    yuck!
     
  30. BigMoaner

    BigMoaner Don't kill the lion

    ask these yuppie cunts if they will be sending their offspring to the local schools!

    half of em will laugh in your face!

    it's a playground. somewhere to swan around in and feel cool before fucking off for good.
     

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