London Fields lido to reopen?
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Thats' becuase I know a lot more than you do about what goes on crime wise and you know nothing at all. Yeah Hackney scares me but for you ignorance is bliss. And you are ignorant.
The local Hackney or E8 black yout gangs have risen in both numbers and in the capacity for violence. Membership of these gangs is necessary before you can rise to the upper adult ranks of the Tottenham Boys or Love of Money Crew. There are many more.
The juvenile gangs range from 11yrs to high teens and are ' trurf orientated ' although membership can be fluid between them and they don't generally fight too much between themeselves.
The ' Fields ' for instance also have ' The Holly Streer Boys ' who may have multiple membership of the HFC ( Hackney Fields Combined ') lately a lot of the prominent members are away in Feltham for crack dealing, firearms and attempted murder on another youth who they kicked in the head so hard he has brain damage. The boy who was 14 had spoken to the ' wrong girl and then strayed home from school on the wrong gand area.
What these youth gangs are well involved in also is mugging (jacking). For this they prey mainly on soft targets at night around their area....drunks with phones are good as well as single females with handbags.The area around Broadway market is now a hot spot because the market attracts wealthy young people who insist on getting pissed and talking on their phones on the way to the bus or through the park. The Lido will only increase the traffic. Its' a crime oppurtunity.
The juvenile gangs range from 11yrs to high teens and are ' trurf orientated ' although membership can be fluid between them and they don't generally fight too much between themeselves.
The ' Fields ' for instance also have ' The Holly Streer Boys ' who may have multiple membership of the HFC ( Hackney Fields Combined ') lately a lot of the prominent members are away in Feltham for crack dealing, firearms and attempted murder on another youth who they kicked in the head so hard he has brain damage. The boy who was 14 had spoken to the ' wrong girl and then strayed home from school on the wrong gand area.
What these youth gangs are well involved in also is mugging (jacking). For this they prey mainly on soft targets at night around their area....drunks with phones are good as well as single females with handbags.The area around Broadway market is now a hot spot because the market attracts wealthy young people who insist on getting pissed and talking on their phones on the way to the bus or through the park. The Lido will only increase the traffic. Its' a crime oppurtunity.
Pot-Bellied Pig said:
So because soft targets get mugged late at night (yes wandering though a park at 12 o'clock waving a phone around is really stupid), the lido becomes a crime opportunity? I don't see a correlation between people swimming and drunk people on the phone late at night. The park is choc full of "soft targets" all the day and they seem to be doing ok. Should they not be in the park because they are a potential crime victim? I don't get it I'm afraid.
Liberty and I are in the park, both seperately and together about 2 hours a day between us weekdays and at least 3 hours at weekends, at all times of day - throughout the year. Each week we speak to maybe 25-30 other people who use the park regularly. While numbers of patrons of the park has increased as the area becomes more popular, police visibilty has decreased somewhat. I haven't seen any police patrolling the park at all this year. 2 years ago there were mountain biked officers seen every few weeks. Last year they did seem less prevalent. Ok, this is all anecdotal and you have to deal with the effects of these gangs have on people in the community, but debasing an attempt to provide a facility to the community because you feel it is a potential 'crime opportunity' seems particulary short sighted. Perhaps we should only build things like this in Kensington eh? What exactly are Hackney Council supposed to do, have no facilities whatsoever?
I'm not debasing anything...if people want to enjoy the Lido thats' great but they must also be aware of taking measures to protect their property as sadly London Fields is a high crime area and as I have said any increase in the use of the park will of course to lead to more crime...theft and snatches. I totally agree that more police should patrol the park but the govt in their wisdom decided that policing wards with one sgt, 2 PC's and 4 to 6 PCSO's is a great idea. Now splitting them up bewteen early shift and Late shift and allowing for days off and sick probably means you'd be lucky to have two walking around the whole ward. The cycle squad was a great anti robbery idea but because of money they have been disbanded and the bikes given in most to the ward PCSO's.
I think if I didn't see the whole picture and being totally disullusioned with the Met and its' inability to fight criminals and protect the public I would otherwise love living in Hackney which as a lot going for it if you compare with some places...but because I do what I do - I get out of that area as fast as my little bandy legs will carry me.
I think if I didn't see the whole picture and being totally disullusioned with the Met and its' inability to fight criminals and protect the public I would otherwise love living in Hackney which as a lot going for it if you compare with some places...but because I do what I do - I get out of that area as fast as my little bandy legs will carry me.
London Fields was a lot dodgier four or five years ago - and it wasn't THAT dodgy then - before they put in new street lighting on the paths.
Even back then it was just gangs of kids chucking stuff at cyclists, although there was a Hackney Gazette story about some junkie mugging a mum by threatening to squirt a needle over her baby. Syringe just had water in it.
That should feed PotBellied Pigs and Garfield's paranoid paralled universe.
Where's this £5.90 figure come from? If true, that's outrageous and counter-productive.
Even back then it was just gangs of kids chucking stuff at cyclists, although there was a Hackney Gazette story about some junkie mugging a mum by threatening to squirt a needle over her baby. Syringe just had water in it.
That should feed PotBellied Pigs and Garfield's paranoid paralled universe.
Where's this £5.90 figure come from? If true, that's outrageous and counter-productive.
Paulie Tandoori said:So you're one of the real edgy hard core Class Warristas then, are you, who welcomes violence as long as its not someone you know getting twatted
Fucking grow up.
I don't know about edgy, and have not been involved in CW for nearly 20 years. I can't say I give a fuck about yuppies getting mugged though. I laugh me.
Sir Belchalot
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Never had any hassle in the daytime there. I worked round the corner from there for years and used to go there most lunchtimes. Have had a couple of incidents cycling through there late at night but have managed to escape o.k.
There's been gangs around that area for years. I remember being at a squat party around Mentmore Terrace over ten years ago that was under siege for ages from local estate kids throwing bricks etc. Remember there being lots of scared people inside and a few macho types who wanted to go out and sort them out. Glad they didn't as I reckon the kids would have called up reinforcements easily enough. Very grim night
There's been gangs around that area for years. I remember being at a squat party around Mentmore Terrace over ten years ago that was under siege for ages from local estate kids throwing bricks etc. Remember there being lots of scared people inside and a few macho types who wanted to go out and sort them out. Glad they didn't as I reckon the kids would have called up reinforcements easily enough. Very grim night
lighterthief
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What do yuppies look like, just so I know?Dougal said:I can't say I give a fuck about yuppies getting mugged though. I laugh me.
Yossarian said:
Ah nooo, where I live doesn't have one of the worst murder rates in the country nor is it in the top ten for robbery for England nor is it in the top five for anti-social behaviour.
Nor would I ever live and work in the same place....and nor would anyone else I know who does my job for as long as I have. Having some scumbag threatening to set fire to your house is not funny in my position.
Until you do what I do you will never understand I fear which is understandable in its' self I suppose.
lighterthief said:
They are usually pissed ater 7pm on a Thursday, talk in loud voices bout real beer and cricket...think that ' edgy ' places are really fun to live around, have no fucking idea what's happening really as they have their eyes closed, talk on expensive phones ride expensive bikes and complain when some poor fucker robs them for crack. Oh yeah..when they grow up and daddy gives them a cheque they move out of London and buy something nice...
You know who you are !!
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
Wouldn't be surprised if it was about £6, that's roughly what the entrance fee was at the new Stokie swimming pool aka the £36million white elephant.
Prob a deliberate attempt to keep the impoverished youth out so all these yuppies that i'm reading about can relax with their mobile phones and not fear anything as they loll in the sunshine with their cappucinos and ice cream sundaes....that is until they leave when flocks of hoodie-wearing, baseball cap adorned, bad bwoys will tear them apart, without mercy and with extreme prejudice
Prob a deliberate attempt to keep the impoverished youth out so all these yuppies that i'm reading about can relax with their mobile phones and not fear anything as they loll in the sunshine with their cappucinos and ice cream sundaes....that is until they leave when flocks of hoodie-wearing, baseball cap adorned, bad bwoys will tear them apart, without mercy and with extreme prejudice
Yeah its' too much for the locals and too little for the YUPPIES... Hello Tarquin and Tallulah reading the Guardian in the park on a nice sunday morning after a croissant and latte in the cafe ! ooooooo Gwaddddddd. That nice man asked to borrow my phone and he didn't bring it back !
Hello Tarquin and Tallulah reading the Guardian in the park on a nice sunday morning after a croissant and latte in the cafe ! ooooooo Gwaddddddd. That nice man asked to borrow my phone and he didn't bring it back !
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
Pot-Bellied Pig said:
The price for a rock is £8 in Hackney at the moment....what do you prefer a swim or a real HIGH...ek
lighterthief said:
Around Broadway market they often have the following attributes.
- Holding £3 loaf of olive bread
- Drink in the Dove or the Cat and Mutton
- Are scared of and loathe working class people
- They know how to cook polenta
- They never ever smoke but like coke.
- They are often living in the house you can now never afford
- They say darling a lot
- They love Polly Toynbee
This list is facetious and is not exaustive.
lighterthief
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Dougal said:Around Broadway market they often have the following attributes.
- Holding £3 loaf of olive bread
- Drink in the Dove or the Cat and Mutton
- Are scared of and loathe working class people
- They know how to cook polenta
- They never ever smoke but like coke.
- They are often living in the house you can now never afford
- They say darling a lot
- They love Polly Toynbee
This list is facetious and is not exaustive.
Dunno, my gf was mugged next to London Fields three weeks ago, walking home from work, and doesn't fit in any of these categories. I know you're having a bit of a joke, but to assume that mugging somehow happens to people who 'deserve' it is a bit lame.
lighterthief
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Like what I said in my last postPot-Bellied Pig said:They are usually pissed ater 7pm on a Thursday, talk in loud voices bout real beer and cricket...think that ' edgy ' places are really fun to live around, have no fucking idea what's happening really as they have their eyes closed, talk on expensive phones ride expensive bikes and complain when some poor fucker robs them for crack. Oh yeah..when they grow up and daddy gives them a cheque they move out of London and buy something nice...
You know who you are !!
lighterthief said:Like what I said in my last post
Yes, it's nice to know that the police think you girlfriend deserved it isn't it? She was using a phone? Stupid cow! Whatever next!?!?! [vomit]
Sorry, but I get pissed off when people go on about this kind of thing, like it's wrong to be on the street and texting someone. It's you fault you got mugged because you were in the wrong place having had a drink. Or you were the wrong type of girl on the wrong street. Bullshit, absolute bullshit. It may not be wise, but it sure aint their fault.
Jeez that's steep. How do you know that?
You take no account for those of us who live here in a nice place with nice things that have worked bloody hard for everything we have. So there are just toffs and muggers are there? I got a lump of concrete in my back just missing my head after someone tried to get my dog. I am neither a toff, not called Tarquin or was on a mobile phonePot-Bellied Pig said:They are usually pissed ater 7pm on a Thursday, talk in loud voices bout real beer and cricket...think that ' edgy ' places are really fun to live around, have no fucking idea what's happening really as they have their eyes closed, talk on expensive phones ride expensive bikes and complain when some poor fucker robs them for crack. Oh yeah..when they grow up and daddy gives them a cheque they move out of London and buy something nice...
You know who you are !!
Pot-Bellied Pig said:
I understand where you are coming from. It must be hard seeing good ideas wasted, must be like pissing in the wind...everyday and there's fuck all you can do about it. But it still doesn't make it the victims fault! You say you are totally disolusioned with the met and it comes across that you are totally disolusioned full stop, if you think that people who are victims of crime deserve it for being in Hackney. I admire you for being a copper, but it sounds like you have stopped being a useful one. Sorry, I don't mean to have a go, but if you can't see the point then, why do you still do it?
Hackney quite shocks me sometimes with it's pride in itself. I don't know of any london borough that feels this way about itself. It's contageous. You say "I'm from Hackney" and it feels like it means something. Maybe we need police officers to feel this way now and again.
lighterthief said:
I am taking the piss regarding the above. As I mentioned in my first post, the gang at the fields have been going way too far lately and are getting away with far too much. knives stashed in the fields, threats and actual violence used to remove valuables from folk, intimidation, it's too much. As you can see from the dickhead copper above, the police have no chance of sorting out any problems because (a) they don't give a fuck as they don't live in the area and (b) have contempt for those that do.
I hope your GF is ok now, the problem is that the memory of these things sometimes stays with a person for ages. Give her a hug eh?
lighterthief
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Anyway...for those of us looking forward to the opening of the Lido:
I spoke to one of the park warden people the other day and he told me they were aiming for an August opening. It's beginning to look a lot more finished now - those weird big yellow 'pods' have now been installed, the outbuildings are all up and roofed...
I spoke to one of the park warden people the other day and he told me they were aiming for an August opening. It's beginning to look a lot more finished now - those weird big yellow 'pods' have now been installed, the outbuildings are all up and roofed...
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