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Lewislewis, if you don't believe me that Plaid's record in local government is poor, then you just need to read some of Niclas's writings before he moved rightwards that document their failings.

It will perhaps be more significant how the LibDems are presenting their deal with Plaid.

Suffice to say, the kids will be asking a few questions :

1) It is clear that Plaid have brokered a deal that they will support the programme of further school closures in Cardiff, in exchange, for a school being kept open in their patch. Is this a good thing?
2) The commitment to ending any further privatisation and PFI is to be welcomed, but it seems largely a rhetorical statement?
3) Does this coalition mean my Council Tax bill is going to go down, or is it going to be hiked up again, as it has under Labour and the Libdems?
4) Is this new coalition going to stop the attack on our culture seen in the harrasment of venues like The Point and the Toucan from the Council?
5) Will the new Coalition end the harrasment of flyposterers?

Your more substantial and interesting claim will have to be dealt with later.

Essentially, Lewislewis is arguing that their is a "new left reformism" being created by the nationalists as witnessed in reforms introduced in Wales and Scottland such as abolition of prescription charges, PFI being placed on hold in the NHS, the SNPs move to abolish Council Tax, and get Trident out of Scottland etc. Of course, this is self-dellusion as both the SNP and Plaid are very clear that they are wedded to the neoliberal orthodoxies, in Edinburgh, 5000 people recently marched against Council Cuts.

The problem is if you canvassed a ward in Cardiff and a ward in Bristol, you would find the same issues coming up. Clearly, workers don't feel that the Welsh Assembly is making much of a substantial diference in their lives witnessed in the fact that most people didn't vote in the Assembly elections.

The other problem is the contradiction that any reforms introduced can do very little to tackle the huge deprivation in Wales, the fact that wages are lower than in England. To actually begin to shift things would necessitate a break in Plaid and Welsh Labour's approach as I will elaborate in a future post. But their approach is that to confront New Labour head-on would jepoardise the tepid reforms that they have introduced. This is the central contradiction.

Another key question is the role of the Plaid Left. It is clear that, historically, the Labour Left have been far more robust: Prepared to organise against the leadership, cohered around a magazine and forming a more organised current, prepared to criticise the party and fight within it.

Yet do we see for example, the Plaid Left, holding the leadership and party in Anglesey to account for its support for nuclear power? Or openly agitating against the leadership? What is the Plaid Left saying about Adam Price's comments on the Tories? If Niclas, believes that socialists should join a mainstream party, how is he fighting for socialism within it. The capitulation of the Plaid Left over the Military Academy speaks volumes.
 
Parents vent fury as coalition is agreed
May 16 2008 by David James, South Wales Echo

A COALITION of Liberal Democrat and Plaid councillors took power in Cardiff last night – and provoked a furious controversy over schools reorganisation.

Parents, a deputy governor and opposition councillors spoke out in anger over proposals that Plaid’s new deputy leader of the capital put at the heart of the Welsh nationalists’ aims for Welsh- language teaching in the city.

After the Liberal Democrat-led coalition’s executive was elected, deputy leader Neil McEvoy told the full council meeting at City Hall the coalition was committed to building a new Welsh-language primary school in Canton by 2011 and saving English-language Lansdowne primary.

He said: “This is an historic day for the Welsh language in Cardiff.

“With the Welsh Liberal Democrats, we will meet the demand for Welsh-language education in the city while supporting English-language schools.

“A new primary school will open in 2011 and Lansdowne will be saved.”

The proposals were at the heart of a tub-thumping speech in which Coun McEvoy said Cardiff council would campaign for a “yes” vote in a referendum on further powers for the National Assembly.

Plaid’s party leader, Deputy First Minister Ieuan Wyn Jones, also came to the start of the meeting at City Hall to congratulate the party’s council group.

But opposition councillors accused the Lib Dem/Plaid coalition of prejudicing the on-going consultation on the controversial schools reorganisation, putting other schools in the city at risk and creating controversial proposals without taking any advice from officers.

Former Labour leader Russell Goodway said: “You have undermined the integrity of the whole process.”

Parents and a deputy governor at Canton’s Welsh-language school, Ysgol Treganna, were also angry as they said they said the plans would consign their children to cramped, inadequate teaching facilities for a further year.

Deputy Governor Kathryn Walters said: “Nobody has been consulted on this at all.

“I am quite outraged.

“Many of the staff are quite shocked by it. We understood it was still in the middle of the consultation process.”

Sarah Manners, chairwoman of the Treganna Supporters’ Committee, said: “All parents and children of primary age in Canton face yet more worry and uncertainty, especially those with children in Welsh-medium education.”

Speaking afterwards, Coun McEvoy said the one-year wait for a new facility would be worth it as it would not involve closing the English-language Lansdowne primary.

He said: “The one-year delay is worth it for community cohesion. We must not pit one language against another. We all live in Cardiff and we are all Welsh.”

Council leader Rodney Berman, who spoke first to the city council meeting, said the coalition with Plaid would provide “a stable administration for the next four years”.

He added: “It gives us an opportunity to really focus on improving the services that matter most to local taxpayers.

“We will no longer be so distracted by opposition groups, particularly Labour, putting their own political concerns ahead of what’s best for local people – a strategy that completely failed to pay off for Labour as the recent elections results can testify.

“This is a truly radical programme that will not only prioritise on frontline service but will place environmental considerations right at the heart of the council’s agenda.”

CARDIFF COUNCIL’S NEW LINE-UP

ALL the following are Lib Dem unless stated:

Leader: Rodney Berman

Deputy Leader (social justice): Judith Woodman

Deputy Leader (economic development): Neil McEvoy (Plaid)

Education: Freda Salway

Environment: Margaret Jones

Finance: Mark Stephens

Health: John Dixon

Sport, Leisure and Culture: Nigel Howells

Transport: Delme Bowen (Plaid)

Key committee chairmen and women:

Planning: Patricia Burfoot

Children: Bill Kelloway

Economic: Gwenllian Lansdown (Plaid)

Environment: Simon Wakefield

Schools sub-committee: Rodney Berman
 
Parents vent fury as coalition is agreed
May 16 2008 by David James, South Wales Echo

A COALITION of Liberal Democrat and Plaid councillors took power in Cardiff last night – and provoked a furious controversy over schools reorganisation.

Parents, a deputy governor and opposition councillors spoke out in anger over proposals that Plaid’s new deputy leader of the capital put at the heart of the Welsh nationalists’ aims for Welsh- language teaching in the city.

After the Liberal Democrat-led coalition’s executive was elected, deputy leader Neil McEvoy told the full council meeting at City Hall the coalition was committed to building a new Welsh-language primary school in Canton by 2011 and saving English-language Lansdowne primary.

He said: “This is an historic day for the Welsh language in Cardiff.

“With the Welsh Liberal Democrats, we will meet the demand for Welsh-language education in the city while supporting English-language schools.

“A new primary school will open in 2011 and Lansdowne will be saved.”

The proposals were at the heart of a tub-thumping speech in which Coun McEvoy said Cardiff council would campaign for a “yes” vote in a referendum on further powers for the National Assembly.

Plaid’s party leader, Deputy First Minister Ieuan Wyn Jones, also came to the start of the meeting at City Hall to congratulate the party’s council group.

But opposition councillors accused the Lib Dem/Plaid coalition of prejudicing the on-going consultation on the controversial schools reorganisation, putting other schools in the city at risk and creating controversial proposals without taking any advice from officers.

Former Labour leader Russell Goodway said: “You have undermined the integrity of the whole process.”

Parents and a deputy governor at Canton’s Welsh-language school, Ysgol Treganna, were also angry as they said they said the plans would consign their children to cramped, inadequate teaching facilities for a further year.

Deputy Governor Kathryn Walters said: “Nobody has been consulted on this at all.

“I am quite outraged.

“Many of the staff are quite shocked by it. We understood it was still in the middle of the consultation process.”

Sarah Manners, chairwoman of the Treganna Supporters’ Committee, said: “All parents and children of primary age in Canton face yet more worry and uncertainty, especially those with children in Welsh-medium education.”

Speaking afterwards, Coun McEvoy said the one-year wait for a new facility would be worth it as it would not involve closing the English-language Lansdowne primary.

He said: “The one-year delay is worth it for community cohesion. We must not pit one language against another. We all live in Cardiff and we are all Welsh.”

Council leader Rodney Berman, who spoke first to the city council meeting, said the coalition with Plaid would provide “a stable administration for the next four years”.

He added: “It gives us an opportunity to really focus on improving the services that matter most to local taxpayers.

“We will no longer be so distracted by opposition groups, particularly Labour, putting their own political concerns ahead of what’s best for local people – a strategy that completely failed to pay off for Labour as the recent elections results can testify.

“This is a truly radical programme that will not only prioritise on frontline service but will place environmental considerations right at the heart of the council’s agenda.”

CARDIFF COUNCIL’S NEW LINE-UP

ALL the following are Lib Dem unless stated:

Leader: Rodney Berman

Deputy Leader (social justice): Judith Woodman

Deputy Leader (economic development): Neil McEvoy (Plaid)

Education: Freda Salway

Environment: Margaret Jones

Finance: Mark Stephens

Health: John Dixon

Sport, Leisure and Culture: Nigel Howells

Transport: Delme Bowen (Plaid)

Key committee chairmen and women:

Planning: Patricia Burfoot

Children: Bill Kelloway

Economic: Gwenllian Lansdown (Plaid)

Environment: Simon Wakefield

Schools sub-committee: Rodney Berman

If only the parents had 'vented their fury' at the elections, where both Plaid and the Lib Dems gained seats on very clear platforms with regards to schools?

In fact, the only alternative mooted for enthusiasts for Welsh-medium schooling was to vote for the Lib Dems. :confused:

There seems to be a more or less positive outcome in which there will be concessions for education in both languages.
 
Udo can rant and rave-but to a certain extent his views are mainly Britleft-and all the imperialist baggage that goes with that.
What would he do?
The tiny sectarian grouplets he supported have gone down the bog
 
I'm sure they are making mistakes just like any mainstream party. Perhaps they will learn from Plaid's mistakes in Gwynedd, although the Gwynedd situation certainly doesn't sound as disastrous as this programme of cuts.

Just mistakes? That's alright then.

" Aberdeen's Bon Accord Baths is set to close down
Aberdeen City Council's decision to make £27m of cuts as well as a council tax freeze has led to angry reaction.
Funding is being withdrawn from several care organisations, and social work services, sports centres and libraries will also be affected.

The art deco Bon Accord Baths - the city's oldest pool - is to close down, as is the children's farm at Doonies.

It is feared the charity Alcohol Support may be forced to withdraw from a pioneering service which provides accommodation.

The homeless charity the Cyrenians has also had its level of funding cut to such an extent that up to four centres in the city may have to close. "

I learned to swim in that pool:mad:

There may be some on the left in Plaid and the SNP who are on the left but they are "mainstream" parties and they organise within the frame work of capitalism.

It's not for nothing that the SNP in the North East of Scotland were known as "tartan tories".

And don't get me started on the SNP's sucking up to Donald Trump.

I'd happily work with nationalists on the left in campaigns. Can't support their parties,though.
 
There is a fightback.
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=14617

Round-up
Thousands march against cuts
Up to 8,000 people marched through Aberdeen last Saturday against proposed cuts of £27 million by the city council.

The council appears to have targeted some of the most vulnerable sections of the community, both in grants to the voluntary sector and its own in-house services.

A broad coalition of the organisations affected, with support from Aberdeen Trades Union Council and Grampian Senior Citizens Forum, organised the march.

Marchers braved atrocious weather conditions, including blizzards of snow and sleet. Shoppers applauded the march, which stretched the length of Union Street, as it passed.
 
Udo can rant and rave-but to a certain extent his views are mainly Britleft-and all the imperialist baggage that goes with that.
What would he do?

No my thinking is always orientated towards those at the base of society, always.

Imperialist baggage? Yeah, That would be like Adam Price MP calling for Iraq to be partitioned - somewhat colonalist, Karac? Or Plaid Cymru supporting the UK Military Academy in Wales that will train the latest recruits to imperialist wars. Or the Leader of Plaid in the House of Commons, who in 2001 said he would support airstrikes against Afghanistan? As to Brit-Left, I think the correct term is internationalist left. Or rather socialist left.

Of course, let's not mention that both Alex Salmond, leader of the Nats in Scotland & Adam Price MP, leading Nat in Wales have said in the event of a hung parliament after the next general electoin they would be prepared to bloc with the Tories in parliament!

You see for the Nats, Brit-Right is no problem!
 
It seems that the first act of the new LibDem/Plaid Coalition on Cardiff Council has been to award themselves a pay rise! It's okay for council staff to be having their wages cut back, but the well paid politicians must be paid a little more.

The fightback documented by Osterberg is very heartening, such a movement is the basis for building a new fighting coalition to represent the working class.
 
No my thinking is always orientated towards those at the base of society, always.

Imperialist baggage? Yeah, That would be like Adam Price MP calling for Iraq to be partitioned - somewhat colonalist, Karac? Or Plaid Cymru supporting the UK Military Academy in Wales that will train the latest recruits to imperialist wars. Or the Leader of Plaid in the House of Commons, who in 2001 said he would support airstrikes against Afghanistan? As to Brit-Left, I think the correct term is internationalist left. Or rather socialist left.

Of course, let's not mention that both Alex Salmond, leader of the Nats in Scotland & Adam Price MP, leading Nat in Wales have said in the event of a hung parliament after the next general electoin they would be prepared to bloc with the Tories in parliament!

You see for the Nats, Brit-Right is no problem!

Adam Price campaigned against the Iraq war from day 1
Jill Evans has spoken out against the St Athan training academy and i support her stance-pretty brave seeing as no other mainstream politician in Wales has dared to do so-and to be fair Plaid put her points on the front page of its newspaper-
 
Adam Price campaigned against the Iraq war from day 1

This is true. Though like Plaid as a whole for a long time he seriously fudged the issue of pulling the troops out of Iraq. But his credibility will have been damaged among anti-imperialists by his call for partition (that obviously was such a great success in Ireland, India/Pakistan/Bangladesh, Cyprus, Israel/Palestine and elsewhere)

So do you think it okay for a Politician sitting in the parliament of a state that is occupying another country, to call for that country to be partitioned, when the people of the occupied country oppose it? Do you think that people in the occupied country might not find such statements somewhat colonialist and patronising. Price should read Orientalism by Edward Said. He incidentally campaigned for Raytheon to come to Wales.

Jill Evans has spoken out against the St Athan training academy and i support her stance-pretty brave seeing as no other mainstream politician in Wales has dared to do so

I wouldn't say brave, but certainly she is the only politician in Wales to have shown any principles, and deserves respect. Shame that the Plaid-Left came out looking so bloody spineless!

But not sure why you then mention Plaid? Or how her political party is relevant? Plaid Cymru's offical position was to welcome the Academy one year ago. Hey Karac, Can you point me to any public or printed statements made by any of Plaid's 200+ Councillors, 3 MPs or 15 Assembly Members opposing the Military Academy? I can find several supporting it . . .

I'm sure as the campaign gains momementum the odd Labour and Plaid politician will crawl out from behind the sofa.

But I would appreciate it if you retract your slur implying that I in any way have imperialist baggage NOW, as I have illustrated the Socialist Left in Wales can hold it's head-up-high. The nationalist "Left" . . .!
 
It's all well and good holding your head up high i'll concede that, but it is a waste because the far-left could only muster about ten candidates out of thousands of seats in the elections. All the far-left parties together combined had less candidates than the BNP on its own in Wales as far as I know.
 
I read that in Swansea the socialists, communists and left parties all stood against each other in the same ward!
Anyone confirm this?

Seems bloody daft to me, Do you expect your average voter to research the difference between your various strains of leftie politics?
 
If you have 4 capitalist parties on offer, then surely for parity you should have 4 socialist parties on offer? As Lewislewis says, pluralism
 
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