Livingstone Cries While Apologising For Slave Trade

[poster342002]

... and that's all before we even get started on the olympics.

Yeah - great for poorer Londoners that'll be (especially those in the immediate vicinioty of them) as rents and prices skyrocket.

 

[nino_savatte]

You're still not answering the question. WHY does the left always come rushing to his defence - even when he is being attacked from the left rather than the right (I grant that wasn't quite the case with his thread, but the point stands).

The left's relationship with and continual sycophancy towards Livingstone is quite bizarre, tbh.

What utter nonsense! "The left's relationship and continual sycophancy towads Livingstone"? Are you a copywriter? Tell me how "sycophantic" the RMT has been towards Livingstone, go on.

 

[editor]

I dislike it. While it's not at all to my taste and I do accept it's well done for that kind of thing, it's totally out of scale with the surrounding area.

It proved such a hit with Londoners that it was voted London's most popular new buiding - before it was finished!

In December 2005, the building was also voted the most admired new building in the world, in a survey of the world's largest firms of architects, as published in 2006 BD World Architecture 200. It constantly wins public architectural polls too.

 

[Demosthenes]

and our current mayor seems to think it's basically a free-for-all for global capital.

Well what else could it be?

As in what other options are there?

 

[nino_savatte]

... and that's all before we get started on the olympics. Yeah - great for poorer Londoners that'll be (especially those in the immediate vicinioty of them) as rents and prices skyrocket.

So how relevant is Livingstone' tears to the Olympics? Are the two 'arguments' related?

 

[poster342002]

I said "I don't recall seeing an IWCA candidate". Which part of that sentence is so difficult to understand? I also asked "how much did they poll"?

How much did the idiotic Socialist Alliance poll?

 

[nino_savatte]

How much did the idiotic Socialist Alliance poll?

I asked you the question. So how about answering it?

 

[nino_savatte]

I don't know what 'hein' means.

That's because you're fick.

 

[poster342002]

It proved such a hit with Londoners that it was voted London's most popular new buiding - before it was finished!

By who? Don't remember there being a referendum.

 

[poster342002]

So how relevant is Livingstone' tears to the Olympics? Are the two 'arguments' related?

Yeah, whatever, then... Keep cheering the man on and keep laying into and sneering at anyone who criticises him from the left. It's what we've come to expect from people with your kind of politics.

 

[STFC]

That's because you're fick.

Evidently.

 

[butchersapron]

I said "I don't recall seeing an IWCA candidate". Which part of that sentence is so difficult to understand? I also asked "how much did they poll"? None of you answered that question. Why?

Whenever I mention the IWCA, you always pop up and stick your oar in. Odd, given the fact that you have never directly admitted to being a member or a supporter of the IWCA (or Red Action).

No, what you actually said was

"Odd, I never saw a IWCA London mayoral candidate. What did they poll?"

Throwing doubt as to whether they did, in fact, stand or not. You can't even read the term IWCA without frothing at the mouth anymore can you? Keep it up!

 

[butchersapron]

What utter nonsense! "The left's relationship and continual sycophancy towads Livingstone"? Are you a copywriter? Tell me how "sycophantic" the RMT has been towards Livingstone, go on.

What, you mean after he called on people to scab on the planned tube strikes?

 

[London_Calling]

I've never understand this apology business:

(a) Why is it his place to offer an ‘apology’?
(b) By what authority or mandate?
(c) Who in particular is he directing his comments to, aren’t we all diminished by what happened?
(d) Why do it last Thursday?


By the way, I’d just like to apologise on behalf of all of London for the involvement of the East India Company in the Asian opium trade. Thank you.

 

[untethered]

It proved such a hit with Londoners that it was voted London's most popular new buiding - before it was finished!

In December 2005, the building was also voted the most admired new building in the world, in a survey of the world's largest firms of architects, as published in 2006 BD World Architecture 200. It constantly wins public architectural polls too.

It's a celebrity building. It's going to get a lot of recognition from the public due to its scale and distinctive design and from the profession due to Foster & Partners' profile.

The public knows very little about architecture apart from a small group of fans. The profession knows a lot about architecture but is very closely knit around current fashions. It's been that way for decades. That's how most of the dreadful buildings from recent years come to be built. Architects actually think they're good.

If you look at what passes for architectural education these days you'd be shocked. Many first degree courses don't even cover construction techniques in any serious depth and teaching of architectural history in most places seems to suggest that no-one built anything before 1920.

So a big shiny slightly different building by Foster in the middle of London is bound to be popular as long as it's not too wacky. But that doesn't make it appropriate or particularly good.

 

[untethered]

By the way, I’d just like to apologise on behalf of all of London for the involvement of the East India Company in the Asian opium trade. Thank you.

I'd like to apologise for the behaviour of the mayor.

*blubs*

 

[STFC]

I'd like to apologise for the behaviour of the mayor.

*blubs*

Me too. Sorry about that.

I'm not crying, I've got something in my eye. Honest.

 

[_angel_]

So what? I presume there's some point that you'd like to make about why we shouldn't be observing the end of the trade - hein?

Twist the words to suit some meaning in your head, you always do. I guess irony is lost on you -non?

Odd, I never saw a IWCA London mayoral candidate. What did they poll?

Two languages on one thread... keep it up nino!

 

[Das Uberdog]

I'm curious as to how he managed to get so emotional and remorseful whilst apologising for something he had no control over and nothing at all to do with.

 

[untethered]

I'm curious as to how he managed to get so emotional and remorseful whilst apologising for something he had no control over and nothing at all to do with.

How upset is he about modern day slavery in London?

Or for that matter, modern day slavery in Africa?

 

[Das Uberdog]

What slavery!?

 

[Guineveretoo]

You're still not answering the question. WHY does the left always come rushing to his defence - even when he is being attacked from the left rather than the right (I grant that wasn't quite the case with his thread, but the point stands).

The left's relationship with and continual sycophancy towards Livingstone is quite bizarre, tbh.

I often get a bit confused on these boards as to what is meant by "the left", and this has happened again here.

Is this "the left" as in, not fascist/BNP/right of the Tories, or "the left" as in Labour/LibDem supporters or "the left" as in too far left to be a member of any of the main political parties? Or all of those? Or none?

I honestly don't know.

 

[London_Calling]

You don't think his black London constituency was more news-atuned on the day before Carnival Bank Holiday?

I ask because I don't really have a view but am curious about the timing . . .

 

[Guineveretoo]

The IWCA hadn't even registered with me at all - I only found out who they are a few minutes ago by googling.

The answer to your question is on this wiki page, though:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayor_of_London

Lorna Reid IWCA 9,542
0.5% of the vote

 

[_angel_]

What slavery!?

Mmmmmm apart from girls and women trafficked into the country and forced to be prostitutes there's this kind of thing

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/07/26/deep-scam-pizza-89520-19521429/

Effectively slavery going on in the UK today.

 

[dylanredefined]

Easy to say sorry for something he wasen't involved in.Tears seem a bit over the top .Could ask him questions about whats he doing to try to end slavery in London at the moment. If you wanted to be arkward .

 

[Guineveretoo]

Mmmmmm apart from girls and women trafficked into the country and forced to be prostitutes there's this kind of thing

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/07/26/deep-scam-pizza-89520-19521429/

Effectively slavery going on in the UK today.

Not to mention the gangmasters which have been doing this sort of thing for years

However, none of that is Ken's fault, surely?

 

[8ball]

Could ask him questions about whats he's doing to try to end slavery in London at the moment. If you wanted to be awkward .

Innit.

 

[STFC]

I'm curious as to how he managed to get so emotional and remorseful whilst apologising for something he had no control over and nothing at all to do with.

Puzzling, isn't it? I have no doubt he was being sincere, though.

 

[nino_savatte]

Yeah, whatever, then... Keep cheering the man on and keep laying into and sneering at anyone who criticises him from the left. It's what we've come to expect from people with your kind of politics.

LOL!!! There are so many presumptions here, I don't even know where to start..."Cheering on the man"? How risible. "My kind of politics"? My kind of politics is one where I don't follow the party line or do what evryone else is doing because it's either"fashionable" or the flavour de jour.