Liverpool, Sunderland and Bradford: "beyond revival" - "residents should move south"
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I am quite stunned, every bit of that is abject nonsense.
Even when it comes to talking about the southern places: "Oxbridge perfectly poised to become economic powerhouses"
WTF?
Am incredulous that these people get paid (probably very substantially) to come out with this sort of shite. When the authors themselves are saying it might be seen as barmy then they must surely be seeing how much they can take the piss.
Even when it comes to talking about the southern places: "Oxbridge perfectly poised to become economic powerhouses"
WTF?
Am incredulous that these people get paid (probably very substantially) to come out with this sort of shite. When the authors themselves are saying it might be seen as barmy then they must surely be seeing how much they can take the piss.
_angel_
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http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=7895732#post7895732
There's already a thread on this.
Total bonkersness. Where are the combined populations of Liverpool etc meant to live in the South East? There's no room as it is!
*goes to check hub caps* 
this report is utter guff. it completely ignores the fact that cities like Manchester and Leeds have had huge investment and now have a lot more jobs etc than they used to after manufacturing etc were killed off, so why can't other cities?
also the streets of London really aren't paved with gold, it's like there are no poor here or something
this report is utter guff. it completely ignores the fact that cities like Manchester and Leeds have had huge investment and now have a lot more jobs etc than they used to after manufacturing etc were killed off, so why can't other cities?
also the streets of London really aren't paved with gold, it's like there are no poor here or something
glenquagmire
Rightwing NuLab apologist
Highland clearances anyone?
Some Tories have been thinking along these lines for a while, i.e. that the benefit system artificially preserves certain areas whose original economic reasons for existing have long gone and which are now in effect 'claimant farms'.
They probably can't get away with stating it too bluntly, but we might see some watered-down form of it emerging in possible benefit changes, for example 'relocation allowances' to make unemployed people in certain areas get on their proverbial bikes and take jobs in other parts of the country.
Such proposals for increased internal labour mobility might also be presented by the Tories hand-in-hand with pledges to cut non-EU immigration.
They probably can't get away with stating it too bluntly, but we might see some watered-down form of it emerging in possible benefit changes, for example 'relocation allowances' to make unemployed people in certain areas get on their proverbial bikes and take jobs in other parts of the country.
Such proposals for increased internal labour mobility might also be presented by the Tories hand-in-hand with pledges to cut non-EU immigration.
Which is great, if you like crappy statues of that retarded "lamb-bannana" thing everywhere and piss poor attempts to cover up the shit loads of empty, derelict houses with brightly covered billboards. Fuck the capital of culture, it's a bag of shite.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
This is my view. While tehre are some OK bits of Liverpool, far too much of it is mired in ghastly economic and cultural poverty. From what i've seen there's a massive portion of it that really needs to be levelled and started again.
Sunderland is also the sort of place not fit for human life any more.
Of course, the answer isn't to shift all the people down south, but a proper social policy designed to lift people out of poverty and create the sort of towns where people want to live happy lives.
_angel_
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The lamb banana things are a bit shit. However, we were in Liverpool a few weeks ago and it's a beautiful city, with tonnes to do and see. Living in the almost cultural dessert that is Leeds, you appreciate stuff like art galleries, the dock etc etc. And a much wider range of restaurants and vintage clothes shops than in Leeds.
glenquagmire
Rightwing NuLab apologist
Liverpool pisses all over Leeds.
Mind you, so does Hull.
Mind you, so does Hull.
bouncer_the_dog
Well-Known Member
WTF indeed I don't want a load of bloody Northerners clogging up Oxford
And anyway its exceptionally boring here, there's loads more to do in Newcastle and Liverpool
Hey, hold on a minute.
Here in Bradford things are pretty grim. The place is divided to the North with a dense Asian community and to the South estates of poor whites. The centre is a bomb-site where a new shopping mall is (one-day) proposed to be built.
I'm all for a paid move. Could I have one of those walled detached houses on the coast of Norfolk please. We'd need to bring some decent beer with us though.
Here in Bradford things are pretty grim. The place is divided to the North with a dense Asian community and to the South estates of poor whites. The centre is a bomb-site where a new shopping mall is (one-day) proposed to be built.
I'm all for a paid move. Could I have one of those walled detached houses on the coast of Norfolk please. We'd need to bring some decent beer with us though.
A Dashing Blade
Takes horses to water but can't make donkeys drink
The headline makes it sound barmy, but the first page or so that I've read seem quite interesting.
rapattaque
At fighting weight
I understand this. The Tories don't poll well with us Northeners... So if they get rid of Northeners they'll do much better. Genius! Just move the goal posts due South!
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
So, does it not say what's reported? (I'm not opening a PDF, far less reading 63 pages).
DownwardDog
Well-Known Member
It's not Tory policy, it's a couple of wonks from Policy Exchange. DC has already distanced himself from it. Not that the Tories give a flying fuck about the North either way; they're just not stupid enough to publically articulate it.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Yup, you can all be housed on the East Anglian coast and fall into the sea
I can't see how a city like Liverpool is beyond revival, and don't know enough about Bradford/Sunderland to comment, but this is something that's happened a lot in the US - whole areas of states where pretty much everyone has upped and left because whatever industries that led to the towns being built has gone and there's nowt to replace it. Same applies to much of rural Europe, from Spain to the Ukraine.
London got the 2012 Olympics ahead of Paris. It just means that Liverpool's presentation and lobbying (and probably social case because much of it's deprived) was better than everyone elses, and says nothing about the long term future of the city.
Sat eating my breakfast, radio 4 on in background, what the fuck did i here right?
The world just get more fucked by each hour each day, i love Bradford have some good friends there and the http://www.1in12.com one hell of an inspiration had so many good times there i can tell, pissed on those stairs with sned, oh dear me..
From being in the studio with The ADFoundation, one of my most love city’s, there is a big hole in the city center at the moment, shall we fill it with The Tory Scum who come out with this?
The world just get more fucked by each hour each day, i love Bradford have some good friends there and the http://www.1in12.com one hell of an inspiration had so many good times there i can tell, pissed on those stairs with sned, oh dear me..
From being in the studio with The ADFoundation, one of my most love city’s, there is a big hole in the city center at the moment, shall we fill it with The Tory Scum who come out with this?
corporate whore
oh, thought you were dead
Policy Exchange is headed by Anthony Browne, who's just about to start his new job as... director of policy for Mayor Boris.
So expect some greeeeeaaaaaat ideas for London soon.
"What ho, Browne, how about those frightful Scousers, what?"
"Quite, so, Mr. Mayor, they should all move to Cambridge.."
So expect some greeeeeaaaaaat ideas for London soon.
"What ho, Browne, how about those frightful Scousers, what?"
"Quite, so, Mr. Mayor, they should all move to Cambridge.."
_angel_
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Yup, you can all be housed on the East Anglian coast and fall into the sea
I can't see how a city like Liverpool is beyond revival, and don't know enough about Bradford/Sunderland to comment, but this is something that's happened a lot in the US - whole areas of states where pretty much everyone has upped and left because whatever industries that led to the towns being built has gone and there's nowt to replace it. Same applies to much of rural Europe, from Spain to the Ukraine.
London got the 2012 Olympics ahead of Paris. It just means that Liverpool's presentation and lobbying (and probably social case because much of it's deprived) was better than everyone elses, and says nothing about the long term future of the city.
I've lived in Liverpool and Oxford. Oxford's beautiful and has got theatres etc, however such a lot of it is exclusive and just for the students or rich people. Liverpool's a lot more inclusive. I think it's streets ahead of Oxford as a cultural city.
(And miles better than Leeds, Bradford in that respect too)
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