List of those for whom Welfare Reform and cuts were too much to bear

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by Frankie Jack, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Jesus head-banging Christ! :mad: :mad: :mad: These deaths aren't "accidents", the suicides that have occurred are due to culpable parties - i.e. the authorities - and yet much of the media won't address the issues, which are that Work Capability Assessments, as carried out by "for profit" companies to whom benefits accrue if they cut the claimant count, KILL. Sanctions can injure and/or KILL. Universal Credit transfer periods can injure and/or kill. This government is killing and injuring people. They are culpable.
     
  2. Chilli.s

    Chilli.s changed the little words

    "Liked" only in agreement VP. You say it so well.
     
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  3. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

    Mother of four found dead as she couldn’t afford to keep warm after her benefits were cut
     
  4. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

  5. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

  6. Slo-mo

    Slo-mo Banned Banned

    We really, really need to fucking stop this happening.

    Whatever your view on JSA sanctions, getting your JSA sanctioned doesn't affect your legal entitlement to housing benefit. The fact that in practice people are getting punished not once but twice for often the most trivial of mistakes which barely warrant more than warning. This could be sorted out so easily by checking why a persons JSA has been stopped before closing the HB claim.

    I just think the powers that be can't be arsed sorting this out. I really do despair.
     
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  7. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    We're meant to despair. Despair breeds fatalism and compliance in a way that anger doesn't.
     
  8. Slo-mo

    Slo-mo Banned Banned

    Oh I'm angry too :D
     
  9. billbond

    billbond Well-Known Member

    shocking and very upsetting all these terrible storys
    Not saying its right but im amazed there have not been some attacks on these people who stop these peoples benefits and sanctions etc
    I know they are doing a job and have to follow instructions but dear oh dear
    would not be surprised if there was a major incident one day
    What a job
     
  10. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    There have been a few attacks on JCP staff and buildings in Birmingham over the past few years. Not on DWP ESA assessment centres as far as I know though.
     
  11. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

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  12. tony.c

    tony.c Well-Known Member

  13. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    That doesn't really tell you anything unfortunately. Obviously people are going to die, and people on ESA at a higher rate than the general population, since it includes many people with terminal illnesses, and chronic conditions which shorten life span.

    The number that is really wanted is how many people die after being refused ESA and how this compares to the general population, since it should be roughly the same.
    Government doesn't keep track of people who are refused ESA so we'll never have that number.
     
  14. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

    Right.
     
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  15. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    They stress that because they have been extremely careful not to collect any information which might lead a causal connection to be drawn.

    I saw the DWP described a few months ago as "increasingly politicised", and realised just how much I'd taken for granted the until recently fairly remarkable Chinese Wall that existed between the political policymakers, and the civil servants implementing those policies. It is clear from the way DWP operates that it appears to have taken on the political ideology as well as the task of merely implementing that ideology. The result is not a happy one.
     
  16. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat lumpen proletaricat

    Sounds like she survived, but Nye Bevan News is reporting that a woman set fire to herself in the housing office at Barnet Council.

    Minimal reporting in mainstream news.

    :( :mad:
     
  17. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    :(
     
  18. Tooter

    Tooter Well-Known Member

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