List of those for whom Welfare Reform and cuts were too much to bear

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by Frankie Jack, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Jesus head-banging Christ! :mad: :mad: :mad: These deaths aren't "accidents", the suicides that have occurred are due to culpable parties - i.e. the authorities - and yet much of the media won't address the issues, which are that Work Capability Assessments, as carried out by "for profit" companies to whom benefits accrue if they cut the claimant count, KILL. Sanctions can injure and/or KILL. Universal Credit transfer periods can injure and/or kill. This government is killing and injuring people. They are culpable.
     
  2. Chilli.s

    Chilli.s changed the little words

    "Liked" only in agreement VP. You say it so well.
     
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  3. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

    Mother of four found dead as she couldn’t afford to keep warm after her benefits were cut
     
  4. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

  5. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

  6. Slo-mo

    Slo-mo Banned Banned

    We really, really need to fucking stop this happening.

    Whatever your view on JSA sanctions, getting your JSA sanctioned doesn't affect your legal entitlement to housing benefit. The fact that in practice people are getting punished not once but twice for often the most trivial of mistakes which barely warrant more than warning. This could be sorted out so easily by checking why a persons JSA has been stopped before closing the HB claim.

    I just think the powers that be can't be arsed sorting this out. I really do despair.
     
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  7. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    We're meant to despair. Despair breeds fatalism and compliance in a way that anger doesn't.
     
  8. Slo-mo

    Slo-mo Banned Banned

    Oh I'm angry too :D
     
  9. billbond

    billbond Well-Known Member

    shocking and very upsetting all these terrible storys
    Not saying its right but im amazed there have not been some attacks on these people who stop these peoples benefits and sanctions etc
    I know they are doing a job and have to follow instructions but dear oh dear
    would not be surprised if there was a major incident one day
    What a job
     
  10. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    There have been a few attacks on JCP staff and buildings in Birmingham over the past few years. Not on DWP ESA assessment centres as far as I know though.
     
  11. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

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  12. tony.c

    tony.c Well-Known Member

  13. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    That doesn't really tell you anything unfortunately. Obviously people are going to die, and people on ESA at a higher rate than the general population, since it includes many people with terminal illnesses, and chronic conditions which shorten life span.

    The number that is really wanted is how many people die after being refused ESA and how this compares to the general population, since it should be roughly the same.
    Government doesn't keep track of people who are refused ESA so we'll never have that number.
     
  14. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

    Right.
     
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  15. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    They stress that because they have been extremely careful not to collect any information which might lead a causal connection to be drawn.

    I saw the DWP described a few months ago as "increasingly politicised", and realised just how much I'd taken for granted the until recently fairly remarkable Chinese Wall that existed between the political policymakers, and the civil servants implementing those policies. It is clear from the way DWP operates that it appears to have taken on the political ideology as well as the task of merely implementing that ideology. The result is not a happy one.
     
  16. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat put on an iron shirt, chase santa out of earth

    Sounds like she survived, but Nye Bevan News is reporting that a woman set fire to herself in the housing office at Barnet Council.

    Minimal reporting in mainstream news.

    :( :mad:
     
  17. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    :(
     
  18. Tooter

    Tooter Well-Known Member

  19. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

  20. UrbaneFox

    UrbaneFox working on it

    Librarians are being mugged into helping people claim benefits.

    That's not what a lot of them bargained for when they decided to become a librarian.

    From Benefits and Work;

    “HORRIFIED” AND “REALLY DEPRESSED” LIBRARY ASSISTANTS
    Following on from our story in the last newsletter about librarians providing UC support, we’ve now heard from two library assistants also required to help with UC as part of their job.

    One was ‘horrified’ to discover that colleagues were questioning applicants about their circumstances and providing advice at a desk in the middle of a public library, with no hope of privacy or confidentiality.

    The library assistant has found themselves labelled ‘hard and unhelpful’ for refusing to follow their colleagues example. Instead they offer advice solely on computer related issues such as how to use a drop down menu.

    The second assistant has yet to have any UC clients. Which is probably fortunate as they have received only one afternoon’s training in UC and said that this left them ‘really depressed’.,
     
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  21. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    Public health research commissioned by Gateshead council:
    universal credit linked to suicide risk, says study
    Universal credit has become a serious threat to public health, doctors have said, after a study revealed that the stress of coping with the new benefits system had so profoundly affected claimants’ mental health that some considered suicide.

    Public health researchers found overwhelmingly negative experiences among vulnerable claimants, including high levels of anxiety and depression, as well as physical problems and social isolation exacerbated by hunger and destitution.
     
  22. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    RIP Penny Oliver
    Hounded to death by the NHS
    "A mum hounded by the NHS over fees of just £29 took her own life by overdosing on the anti-depressants that drove her into debt.

    Penny Oliver owed sums of £8.60 and £20.60. But with penalty fees and surcharges these rocketed – the second one alone soaring to £120.60.

    And having lost hundreds of pounds a month when her benefits were cut, mum Penny, 54, simply couldn’t pay.

    She had just a few pounds in her account and was surrounded by payment demands when her family found her dead in bed in June.

    Letters from the council, the NHS and Department for Work and Pensions included threats to take her to court and inform her employer if she did not pay up."

    Penny Oliver had back pain and depression and anxiety, and was in receipt of ESA for a time, and by the looks of it was doing "permitted work" of 15 hours a week while claiming ESA. Her back pain eased, but her mental health problems continued, and in November 2017 she was found fit for work. Because of this, she stopped receiving council tax benefit and her housing benefit was halved, but in the process overpayments of these benefits occurred, there was also an overpayment made by the DWP, and during the same period of time, she ticked the wrong box on a prescription form and a dentists form. She received letters demanding that she pay back the overpayments from her council and DWP - The DWP demand letter threatened to deduct payments straight from her wages. She also received letters about the prescription charges and dental fees that added penalties and surcharges - of almost 10 times as much as the original money owed. Penny Oliver had upped her working hours and given away her pet dog, but her mental health deteriorated, and she died on June 14th 2018. It is indicated that money worries played a large part in her death.
     
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  23. Smoking kills

    Smoking kills Well-Known Member

    RIP Penny Oliver.
    The "NHS" Business Services Authority didn't even bother responding. apparently. Murder by debt and brown envelope.
    For putting a tick in the wrong box.
     
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  24. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

    RIP Penny Oliver.
     

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