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List of those for whom Welfare Reform and cuts were too much to bear

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by Frankie Jack, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

    Looking good. thanks alot.
     
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  2. Théoden

    Théoden Banned Banned

    I'm very saddened by this thread. The austerity narrative is being used to punish those in need of help.

    I know a lot of people who are struggling. Thankfully no-one who has harmed themselves, yet.

    The answer, in my opinion, is independent community organising and better MH services. I hope the new Labour leadership can do something at the national level, too. Time will tell.
     
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  3. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

  4. tony.c

    tony.c Well-Known Member

  5. laptop

    laptop Freudenschade

  6. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

    Why should tories understand #WorkPenalty impact? £35pw doesnt stop hunger or bailiffs, it's barely a decent bottle of red.
     
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  7. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

  8. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

  9. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

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  10. superfly101

    superfly101 Well-Known Member

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  11. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

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  12. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    We've already had direct experience of similar being attempted here in Lambeth, with the plan to house a counselling service in the same building as a JobCentrePlus, with JC+ making direct referrals.
     
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    laptop Freudenschade

    UK government efforts to reduce the number of people claiming disability benefit appear to have driven 590 people in England to suicide and to have put 725,000 more on antidepressants.

    New Scientist
     
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  14. tony.c

    tony.c Well-Known Member

  15. KJW67

    KJW67 New Member

    All to do with making the present system of social security useless with a view to forcing everyone, as both Cameron and IDS have publicly suggested, to take out private insurance against unemployment, ill-health etc. One suspects the main movers behind this idea are Unum, the giant American insurance company with the long and established history, as UnumProvident and others, of criminality in the field of disability and payout denial who have been working as 'consultants' on 'welfare reform' in this country since the early 90s, as Private Eye has well documented. Wrecking social security in the UK opens up a multi-billion pound insurance market. No doubt those helping to bring this about would be well-rewarded. I recommend interested parties try Googling for Unum scandal; there's page after page after page of, for the uninitiated, eye-opening, jaw-dropping material just sitting there in plain view.
     
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  16. KJW67

    KJW67 New Member

    It should be remembered claimants aren't being sanctioned for transgressions, they're being sanctioned for alleged transgressions, which means they're being sanctioned on the whim of anonymous backroom target-driven clerks. There is no presumption of innocence. What happened to innocent until proven guilty, you might ask. To which the answer is: Iain Duncan Smith.
     
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  17. KJW67

    KJW67 New Member

    Simple answer to all of this of course is a Basic Income enshrined in human rights legislation and cannot be removed to create "work incentives". A properly designed basic income is itself a powerful incentive to work. We do not need sanctions. They are inhumane, and they don't work anyway. We can, and should, do far better by people than this.

    In the 19th century it took the work of Dickens and a sustained campaign by The Times, and some high profile scandals, to expose the horror of the workhouses and bring about major social reforms. But this government is not listening even to a Parliamentary committee. What will it take to expose the horror of the 21st century benefits sanctions regime and bring about the social reforms that are now so desperately needed? :confused:
     
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  18. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    Britain's biggest food bank charity has hit out at the DWP


    Posted on the Independent article about food banks, anyoone know anything about this, horrendous if true.
     
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    laptop Freudenschade

    This search reveals a distressing number of candidate cases. None of the dozen I've looked at report benefits issues... but who would know from a basic police report?
     
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  20. laptop

    laptop Freudenschade

    There is a research project looking at coroners' findings - isn't there? That should give a better picture. But 2-3 years or more after the fact :(
     
  21. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    this is posted on JC for PM FB page, if its correct and the others are, it is getting like the 30's in Germany where people were being killed and rumours were spreading about their demise.It can't be hushed up much more can it?

    no apology for the comparison, lives are being lost.
     
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  23. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Just seen this article myself :mad:
     
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  24. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

  25. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    What will it take for these deaths, running into many hundreds, maybe more, to get the same coverage, outrage, and action as we have seen from a large part of of the public on the refugee issue?
     
  26. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Media nowadays is about BIG stories and sensationalism, not about dozens/hundreds of small stories that'd actually require some work to create a story around. That's why most of the little that does get printed, is by investigative journos, not by political reporters or commentators.
    Compared to that, it's easy to just mix and match wire reports about refugees.
     
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  27. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that measured reply.
     
  28. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

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    Moving, but Natalie seems to be on her own, how can this be? there are groups like Citizens United who could be there.
     
  29. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

  30. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

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