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FridgeMagnet said:
And the Eee. All the hardware setup you need has already been done, and if you balls it up you can just reset the entire OS. Never had a moment's problem with the wifi there.
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Yep. Precisely the sort of machine that linux is suited for.
 
Preinstalled Linux is the way to go. :cool:

...

Maybe on a limited hardware platform to help with the driver issues ... maybe don't choose gtk or gnome and go for something completely different ... and sort out the sound ...

Oh ... is that almost a Mac? :D
 
Crispy said:
Really, 4 different sytems? That's shocking.
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Crispy said:
oh and GTK and Gnome should really merge, or one should admit defeat. The continued existence of two seperate user interfaces really baffles me.
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Why is it shocking that users have a choice? :confused: I don't use either Gnome or KDE btw.

You mean kde, not gtk -- gtk is the UI library used by gnome
 
It doesn't play anything. Everything seems to think it's there, alsa -l claims it's there and its using it, everything's unmuted and all that sort of thing, only nothing plays. Except that sometimes, by buggering about with config files, I sometimes get it to play static.
 
Signal 11 said:
Why is it shocking that users have a choice? :confused: I don't use either Gnome or KDE btw.

You mean kde, not gtk -- gtk is the UI library used by gnome
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woops :o yes, exactly what I meant.

Why do I need a choice of sound system? Application -> Mixer -> Speakers. There should only be one. If there is to be choice, then the interface standards should be the same amongst them.
 
Hardware support is one of the reasons I installed it into a VM. It uses pretty primitive hardware so it supported well, with a couple of tweaks.

So I got it running pretty quickly. So I stand by doing this if you want to have a go at Linux. Its pretty painless.

Pretty painless, unless you want to install the Virtual Machine Additions from Microsoft, at which point it gets tough and I just got it working. Took me 3 attempts and some serious googling and then still had to make a leap of faith that the mouse1 device was the VM additions mouse.
 
FridgeMagnet said:
It doesn't play anything. Everything seems to think it's there, alsa -l claims it's there and its using it, everything's unmuted and all that sort of thing, only nothing plays. Except that sometimes, by buggering about with config files, I sometimes get it to play static.
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It seems to be working for most people on recent versions of Ubuntu. I'm not sure if I could suggest anything you haven't already tried. Could you give more details on what you have done? The best place to get help for audio is the LAU list.
 
The problem is that I've done so much now, including uninstalling and reinstalling ALSA, fiddling endlessly with config for ALSA and ESD and OSS, installing and uninstalling random packages which I hoped might work and which somebody had said helped them, that I really have no clue what's gone on. I've been through all of the help imaginable but all I can see is that I have the latest everything, the sound card is properly recognised, the drivers for it are there and apparently loaded, and nothing plays. I'm considering just bloody reinstalling and keeping proper notes on what I actually _do_ next time.
 
FridgeMagnet said:
I'm considering just bloody reinstalling and keeping proper notes on what I actually _do_ next time.
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This would be the way to go. I've found fixing problems in Linux is much easier if you use documented step-by-step approach, rather than random fiddling. Alos try asking quiestions on the Ubuntu forums -- it really is helpful...

Personally I'd use a Live disk of that latest distro and seeing if that works.

FYI I have a shuttle, and all my mixer settings are on default.
 
Crispy said:
woops :o yes, exactly what I meant.

Why do I need a choice of sound system? Application -> Mixer -> Speakers. There should only be one. If there is to be choice, then the interface standards should be the same amongst them.
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Why should we need choice in anything...? :confused::D You don't have to use them all, and they have strenghts and weaknesses of their own...
 
Sunray said:
Hardware support is one of the reasons I installed it into a VM. It uses pretty primitive hardware so it supported well, with a couple of tweaks.

So I got it running pretty quickly. So I stand by doing this if you want to have a go at Linux. Its pretty painless.

Pretty painless, unless you want to install the Virtual Machine Additions from Microsoft, at which point it gets tough and I just got it working. Took me 3 attempts and some serious googling and then still had to make a leap of faith that the mouse1 device was the VM additions mouse.
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This is my approach for painless Windows installs... :D
 
VMware is the greatest thing for me at work now. I've got at least 6-5 current sets of VM images that I use regularly.
 
Sunray said:
aplay <wav file>

should play the wav file

What sound hardware do you have?
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It doesn't, but aplay -l quite happily tells me
Code: 
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: SN25P [Shuttle SN25P], device 0: ICE1724 [ICE1724]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SN25P [Shuttle SN25P], device 1: IEC1724 IEC958 [IEC1724 IEC958]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SN25P [Shuttle SN25P], device 2: ICE1724 Surrounds [ICE1724 Surround PCM]
  Subdevices: 2/2
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
alsamixer says "card SN25P, chip VIA Technologies VIA1617A" but still won't play anything regardless of how much I tweak the volume settings, unmute everything, mute everything except one bit, etc. Needless to say it works fine with Windows. It's all completely incomprehensible to me. I even put in a fresh install of Mint Linux on a partition, but that didn't work either, and now I just have 10 gigs less space available.
 
aplay will try to use alsa directly though, which won't work if esd is running. I don't know if you can make it use esd. If you have mplayer you can use "mplayer -ao esd". Otherwise you could stop esd and then try to play through alsa
 
I'm not entirely sure that I _do_ have ESD running actually; I can't see it anywhere. Perhaps that's the problem.

I think I will start a thread on the Ubuntu forums because this is driving me nuts.
 
feck it

I just got some sound after following random instructions on a thread in the Ubuntu forums. How did I do that? Hm... I made sure PCM was unmuted in alsamixer, then I right-clicked the taskbar volume control button and selected PCM in Preferences, then twiddled the volume on the taskbar a little, then tried aplay and it worked.

I'd best write that down. But I expect it will disappear once I reboot.
 
Are you sure the sound driver you are using actually works with the sound hardware your pc has? Linux doesn't always detect the hardware correctly.
 
It still seems to work, but I want to use something which I believe uses OSS, and that's not happening. Still. At least it's a start.
 
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