Linux Users say aye
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I have Windows 7 RC7100 on this my gaming rig dual booting with Ubuntu Jaunty.
I also have three other machines that my kids use, 2 desktops and 1 MSI Wind all running Ubuntu Jaunty.
When/if I give up gaming or it becomes better supported in linux I will dump windows forever.
I also have three other machines that my kids use, 2 desktops and 1 MSI Wind all running Ubuntu Jaunty.
When/if I give up gaming or it becomes better supported in linux I will dump windows forever.
gorski
customised free radical
Vista 64b and Ubuntu 9.04 64b. Ubuntu is getting better and better, I feel!
But it has a while to grow before...
Like, can one make aMSN or some such proggy work fully on Ubuntu [like on Windoz], Audio-Visual and all? Not to my "knowledge", sadly...
Many progs, even commercial stuff, are only a fraction of what they are on Windoz.
Many things [mostly peripherals] do not work at all, thanx to companies not writing the Linux drivers or writing them but not for both 32b and 64b or writing but not testing properly or not giving any "How to" etc.
Linux is seriously handicapped, even with a millionaire's helping hand, in Ubuntu's case, because the whole thing is rigged to MS's benefit, infuriatingly...
More than that, nowt to do with MS, many Linux things are still "geek reservation only", sadly...
When it becomes truly "for Joe Public" I'll dance naked aroud a pole in a park... Gladly, even though I'm a bit shy like that...
You know, I am but a "free OS/open source" enthusiast and every improvement I see - I do dance around a table, all smiles...
But too many dances are still necessary before I do it in a park...
Much to my discontent...
But it has a while to grow before...
Like, can one make aMSN or some such proggy work fully on Ubuntu [like on Windoz], Audio-Visual and all? Not to my "knowledge", sadly...
Many progs, even commercial stuff, are only a fraction of what they are on Windoz.
Many things [mostly peripherals] do not work at all, thanx to companies not writing the Linux drivers or writing them but not for both 32b and 64b or writing but not testing properly or not giving any "How to" etc.
Linux is seriously handicapped, even with a millionaire's helping hand, in Ubuntu's case, because the whole thing is rigged to MS's benefit, infuriatingly...
More than that, nowt to do with MS, many Linux things are still "geek reservation only", sadly...
When it becomes truly "for Joe Public" I'll dance naked aroud a pole in a park... Gladly, even though I'm a bit shy like that...
You know, I am but a "free OS/open source" enthusiast and every improvement I see - I do dance around a table, all smiles...
But too many dances are still necessary before I do it in a park...
Much to my discontent...
More likely the Sony laptop would work better. The Libretto will probably be too slow for Ubuntu. Which model Sony laptop is it...?
editor
hiraethified
Sony srx51p. I remember looking at Linux years ago and there was a lot of issues particularly with power management and some device drivers.
I'm sure it's got better but I'm wary of ending up with a pup,
Here's some attempts to Linux on the laptop a few years ago:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~atownley/srx51p.html
http://www.keithmitchell.co.uk/vaio/srx51.html
Best just to burn a quick LiveCD, pop it in the drive and reboot. This will give you a good indication of how well the hardware is auto-detected. It won't change anything on the Sony so reboot again and you're back in Windows. Only thing to remember is that LiveCds are much slower than the real thing since its having to read stuff off the CD.
TBH last time I used a Sony laptop with a LiveCD was with the Mepis distribution, but that was about 3/4 years go...
Fez909
toilet expert
Try Pidgin. Similar to aMSN and native on Linux.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
None of them have the video and other extra features of the MSN client on Linux, they're proprietory protocols which haven't been cracked yet.
Which actually is quite fine with me. The only thing that irritates is the flakey file transfer support over MSN - that's actually a useful function.
Which actually is quite fine with me. The only thing that irritates is the flakey file transfer support over MSN - that's actually a useful function.
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
I've just bought myself a new pc with vista and have thought about installing ubuntu on it - how much of a headfuck would it be to install and get all the drivers working right and to install something like WINE and get all my Windows-based software working on it? I really don't want to spend days pulling my hair out.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
Just download ubuntu cd and see if the live cd works by booting from the cd, saves installing anything, then you'll know if your hardware works. You can also install as a wubi (inside windows by just inserting the CD and a normal installer window will pop up allowing you to install ubuntu in the same way as you would a windows application) and installs it on your NTFS partition without removing anything from your windows install and allowing you to dual boot, and not risking making any risky partition changes to your drive.
Would always recommend a dual boot scenario to start with.
Wine can be a bit of a ball ache to be honest. I found it much easier to find applications (for free) that did the exact same things as I required from my Windows apps. It took me about 3-4 months but once I'd got it working as I wanted, I finally ditched Windows and now just have Ubuntu as the main OS.
I will admit to still having Windows inside a virtual machine on Virtualbox but it rarely get's used and it's only to do one thing that I can't do in Ubuntu (because it's naughty and illegal and there doesn't seem to be a way of doing in in Linux, yet!!)
Would always recommend a dual boot scenario to start with.
Wine can be a bit of a ball ache to be honest. I found it much easier to find applications (for free) that did the exact same things as I required from my Windows apps. It took me about 3-4 months but once I'd got it working as I wanted, I finally ditched Windows and now just have Ubuntu as the main OS.
I will admit to still having Windows inside a virtual machine on Virtualbox but it rarely get's used and it's only to do one thing that I can't do in Ubuntu (because it's naughty and illegal and there doesn't seem to be a way of doing in in Linux, yet!!)
gorski
customised free radical
I am not from IT or so - but Humanities. I managed.
But you have to allow the time to learn. Meaning: to make mistakes. You must invest time and effort.
A few re-installations down the line
and you'll be comfortable with it, provided you give up wishing certain things you can do in Windows and you can't in Linux, sadly...
Not sure about commercial variants of various Linux distros, mind... Maybe they have it all sorted?
But it's good fun trying, that much I can tell you!
Plus, as I said, Ubuntu is getting better in being an OS for Human Beings, rather than the "initiated" only, i.e. the IT crowd...
I found that my lappy can be well sorted if all is switched on and plugged into it, during the installation, with Ubuntu 9.04, which is great!
Of course, the latest peripherals will not work, sometimes [like my Canon all in one Pixma MP630]. But if you have older stuff - it might.
The crucial piece of advice: inform yourself before you try - re. the drivers for your graphics card, sound card, printer, TV PCI or USB card etc. etc.
Download them [for the exact version of your HW], plus print out the "HOW TOs", as a minimal precaution, so you have it at hand, when you are installing - or place it as a simple txt file on one of your partitions which won't get deleted during the installation, so you can access it and copy and paste from it, during the installation.
Try Ubuntu forums, Wiki and generally, people write about these things on the net and do help each other and share...
Best of luck!!!
But you have to allow the time to learn. Meaning: to make mistakes. You must invest time and effort.
A few re-installations down the line
and you'll be comfortable with it, provided you give up wishing certain things you can do in Windows and you can't in Linux, sadly...Not sure about commercial variants of various Linux distros, mind... Maybe they have it all sorted?
But it's good fun trying, that much I can tell you!
Plus, as I said, Ubuntu is getting better in being an OS for Human Beings, rather than the "initiated" only, i.e. the IT crowd...
I found that my lappy can be well sorted if all is switched on and plugged into it, during the installation, with Ubuntu 9.04, which is great!
Of course, the latest peripherals will not work, sometimes [like my Canon all in one Pixma MP630]. But if you have older stuff - it might.
The crucial piece of advice: inform yourself before you try - re. the drivers for your graphics card, sound card, printer, TV PCI or USB card etc. etc.
Download them [for the exact version of your HW], plus print out the "HOW TOs", as a minimal precaution, so you have it at hand, when you are installing - or place it as a simple txt file on one of your partitions which won't get deleted during the installation, so you can access it and copy and paste from it, during the installation.
Try Ubuntu forums, Wiki and generally, people write about these things on the net and do help each other and share...
Best of luck!!!
gorski
customised free radical
Oh, btw: there is a greater hope still for us:
apparently Google is spoiling for a fight with MS big time, planning a Chrome OS, based on Linux.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=20899
However, there are other reports, claiming that the 2 giants actually collaborated on it:
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/43176/140/
or http://www.osnews.com/story/21812
If it is free and they really wanna go all the way - watch out!
What a sole South African couldn't pull off with Ubuntu - these guys with superior "firepower" [read capital] just might!!!
The worry is that Google by definition is not a good company when it comes to spying on us etc. etc.
Only a hacked [= thoroughly "cleansed"] system from Google would be a good system for all, I fear... Hope it would be possible, if it happens like that... seeing as it would be Linux...
More than that, sadly: http://www.osnews.com/story/21796/_No_Thanks_Google_We_ve_Got_Ubuntu_
They said they'll start with netbooks and work from there... Remains to be seen to be believed...
http://www.osnews.com/story/21816/Schmidt_Chrome_OS_Netbooks_As_Early_As_this_Year
apparently Google is spoiling for a fight with MS big time, planning a Chrome OS, based on Linux.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=20899
However, there are other reports, claiming that the 2 giants actually collaborated on it:
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/43176/140/
or http://www.osnews.com/story/21812
If it is free and they really wanna go all the way - watch out!
What a sole South African couldn't pull off with Ubuntu - these guys with superior "firepower" [read capital] just might!!!
The worry is that Google by definition is not a good company when it comes to spying on us etc. etc.
Only a hacked [= thoroughly "cleansed"] system from Google would be a good system for all, I fear... Hope it would be possible, if it happens like that... seeing as it would be Linux...
More than that, sadly: http://www.osnews.com/story/21796/_No_Thanks_Google_We_ve_Got_Ubuntu_
They said they'll start with netbooks and work from there... Remains to be seen to be believed...
http://www.osnews.com/story/21816/Schmidt_Chrome_OS_Netbooks_As_Early_As_this_Year
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
What, at home only? Nay. Windows 7 is secure enough for home use and it runs my games. Linux on the desktop for the average user will never happen - that's my prediction.
At work? Well, it's mostly Solaris and AIX but yes there's a fair bit of the ol' Red Hat about.
OSX is BSD based. Yes, it's a free unix but it's not Linux.
At work? Well, it's mostly Solaris and AIX but yes there's a fair bit of the ol' Red Hat about.
OSX is BSD based. Yes, it's a free unix but it's not Linux.
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