lily allen, real deal or mockney, packaged, private school imposter?
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Skim
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Relahni said:I think it's great to see pop stars working their way up rather than relying on who they know/blow.
Well done Lily Allen.
She wouldn't be the only pop star who uses every connection she can to work her way up... and just 'cos she's a woman, it doesn't mean she'll 'blow' her way to the top. Male pop stars rarely get accused of using their sexual talents to get ahead.
aylee said:
nice.
clandestino
no llevar papel
Skim said:
Hear hear!
pootle
little moran
aylee said:
Now see I'm confused. Some people have slagged her off because they think she is posh.
Now she's being slagged off for being not-posh. And what does it matter anyway, if she is a chav? There's actually nothing wrong with being chav and proud.
Aylee...how exactly have you come to the conclusion that she is stupid and loudmouthed?
As for the pointless, well, she's entertained me and several other people with her lovely and witty songs. Hardly pointless! Have you listened to any of her stuff beyond Smile and LDN?
i'm no big fan, liked the singles, thought she was a bit weak live. but she's fun, she's refreshing, she's an entertaining gobshite in a sea of mediocre yes-men.
all this criticism - other than about the music - smacks of both snobbery and reverse-snobbery. at the same time. which is a tad confusing
all this criticism - other than about the music - smacks of both snobbery and reverse-snobbery. at the same time. which is a tad confusing
clandestino
no llevar papel
Dubversion said:
I listened to LDN and Smile and they're ok but like others have said her voice is a bit weak and passionless. She does have flippin great frocks though 
Maybe she'll develop her voice and her style and become better? There's something good about her.....different perhaps? Dunno.
As for her class/background - it's totally irrelevant.
Maybe she'll develop her voice and her style and become better? There's something good about her.....different perhaps? Dunno.
As for her class/background - it's totally irrelevant.
PieEye said:I like her frocks
But I don't think she'll be around this time next year and I think she's knows it too.
My thoughts exactly.
I didn't know that Keith Allen had little to do with bringing her up, and I'm right pissed off that it has taken this long for Urban to provide this essential piece of info.
Some of us don't read Heat magazine and rely on Urban to keep us informed on all of the important stuff.Groucho said:My thoughts exactly.
I didn't know that Keith Allen had little to do with bringing her up, and I'm right pissed off that it has taken this long for Urban to provide this essential piece of info.
bearing in mind quite how many kids he does have, i doubt he's had time to spend with any of them
Skim said:
Quite, plus cynically convincing her fans that she's somehow being a radical free-spirit for slinging playground insults at easy targets. I'm sorry but I find her whole "2 cool 4 U" keepin-it-real act deeply offensive.
I honestly wouldn't give her so much of my time if it weren't for the fact that there are a thousand other Lily Allens out there in the world of spoilt, middle-class twenty-somethings. Hell, I've met my fair share of them too.
"Riding through the city on my bike all day
Cause the filth took away my licence"
So why did you lose your licence Lily?
Hope you weren't drink driving/driving without insurance or anything equally stupid like that.
(...or is this just a tough 'I'm so urban' fantasy that never actually happened?)
Also, the sum total of things to say about London in LDN:
"A fella looking dapper, but he's sittin with a slapper
Then I see it's a pimp and his crack whore"
"There was a little old lady, who was walkin down the road
She was struggling with bags from Tesco
There were people from the city havin lunch in the park
I believe that it's called al fresco
Then a kid came along to offer a hand
But before she had time to accept it
hits her over the head, doesn't care if she's dead
Cause he's got all her jewellery and wallet"
Maybe she needs to do a bit more cycling around "London Town" to collect a bit more source material, or maybe her driving ban ran out after a week or so?
"I wanna get a flat I know I can't afford it,
It's just the bureaucrats who won't give me a mortgage,
Well it's very funny cos I got your fuckin money,
And I'm never gonna get it just because of my bad credit"
Hmm, if you have the money why do you need a mortgage? Ever heard of cash sales? You've ran up bad credit already? How old are you again? Maybe the "bureaucrats" (mortgage lenders surely?) don't rate your future earnings potential - although what do bankers know about music, eh?
"Alright how would it make you feel if I told you that you never ever made me come?
In the year and a half that we spent together,
Yeah I never really had much fun."
Well, I would be thinking 'why the fuck did you continue to choose to have sex with someone for 18 months and not ever say anything'?
"Let's see how you feel in a couple of weeks,
When I work my way through your mates."
Eh? Self empowered young woman or hopeless fucking arsehole?
Some classic lines here:
"Please don't come around and knock on my door
cos I don't want to have to pick you up of the floor,
when you ask if we can still be lovers,
I'll have to introduce my brothers,
Think that they could teach you a lesson or two,
By the time they've finished you'll be black and blue
You'll be crying like a baby,
A sea of tears they'll call the navy in."
Wow they all rhyme! Amazing.
Hey Lily:
"Go away now, let me go,
Are you stupid? Or just a little slow?
Go away now I've made myself clear,
Nah it's not gonna happen,
Not in a a million years"
"What the fuck do you know?
Just cos you're old you think your wise,
But who the hell are you though,
I didn't even ask for your advice
You wanna keep your mouth shut,
You wanna take your thoughts elsewhere,
Cos you're doing in my nut,
And do you think I care?"
Cause the filth took away my licence"
So why did you lose your licence Lily?
Hope you weren't drink driving/driving without insurance or anything equally stupid like that.
(...or is this just a tough 'I'm so urban' fantasy that never actually happened?)
Also, the sum total of things to say about London in LDN:
"A fella looking dapper, but he's sittin with a slapper
Then I see it's a pimp and his crack whore"
"There was a little old lady, who was walkin down the road
She was struggling with bags from Tesco
There were people from the city havin lunch in the park
I believe that it's called al fresco
Then a kid came along to offer a hand
But before she had time to accept it
hits her over the head, doesn't care if she's dead
Cause he's got all her jewellery and wallet"
Maybe she needs to do a bit more cycling around "London Town" to collect a bit more source material, or maybe her driving ban ran out after a week or so?
"I wanna get a flat I know I can't afford it,
It's just the bureaucrats who won't give me a mortgage,
Well it's very funny cos I got your fuckin money,
And I'm never gonna get it just because of my bad credit"
Hmm, if you have the money why do you need a mortgage? Ever heard of cash sales? You've ran up bad credit already? How old are you again? Maybe the "bureaucrats" (mortgage lenders surely?) don't rate your future earnings potential - although what do bankers know about music, eh?
"Alright how would it make you feel if I told you that you never ever made me come?
In the year and a half that we spent together,
Yeah I never really had much fun."
Well, I would be thinking 'why the fuck did you continue to choose to have sex with someone for 18 months and not ever say anything'?
"Let's see how you feel in a couple of weeks,
When I work my way through your mates."
Eh? Self empowered young woman or hopeless fucking arsehole?
Some classic lines here:
"Please don't come around and knock on my door
cos I don't want to have to pick you up of the floor,
when you ask if we can still be lovers,
I'll have to introduce my brothers,
Think that they could teach you a lesson or two,
By the time they've finished you'll be black and blue
You'll be crying like a baby,
A sea of tears they'll call the navy in."
Wow they all rhyme! Amazing.
Hey Lily:
"Go away now, let me go,
Are you stupid? Or just a little slow?
Go away now I've made myself clear,
Nah it's not gonna happen,
Not in a a million years"
"What the fuck do you know?
Just cos you're old you think your wise,
But who the hell are you though,
I didn't even ask for your advice
You wanna keep your mouth shut,
You wanna take your thoughts elsewhere,
Cos you're doing in my nut,
And do you think I care?"
Hollis
bloody furious
poului said:Quite, plus cynically convincing her fans that she's somehow being a radical free-spirit for slinging playground insults at easy targets. I'm sorry but I find her whole "2 cool 4 U" keepin-it-real act deeply offensive.
I honestly wouldn't give her so much of my time if it weren't for the fact that there are a thousand other Lily Allens out there in the world of spoilt, middle-class twenty-somethings. Hell, I've met my fair share of them too.
She gets played on the Terry Wogan Radio show.. so she must be okay.
killkillkawaii
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meh. ambivalent. the music is average and bland but I'm vaguely fond of her. My mate had a shower with her (not with her in the same cubicle, they had big shower caravan type things, i dont think he saw her naked but she was wearing only a towel) at the Big Chill and he said she was sound
ska invita
back on the other side
Dubversion said:
aye she doeas, but what a headstart - you get hooked up with good producers and your sorted. Saw her at the dodgy clpham loaded in the park thing, and she held her own on stage. Not my bag, but id much rather "smile" was number one than most fuckers.
blinky_bill
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First one was a nice happy pop song, better than kylie, can't complain.
Blatantly trying to rip off rocksteady but it doesn't come close. Well meaning amateur.
Plus I like the way she can't really sing properly.
Blatantly trying to rip off rocksteady but it doesn't come close. Well meaning amateur.
Plus I like the way she can't really sing properly.
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