Life of Brian!
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
MC5 said:The revolutionary family trees is in transition. I once saw it on the wall of a member of the SWP's house back in the mist of time. Seriously.
The SWP with hair gel (the RCP) also did a version, if memory serves me right, in a copy of their paper The Next Step.
To be continued...............for ever and fucking ever.
I've less than 4,000 posts
cant find the one with the tree growing out of Trotskys hair! (tho i did finally find the right tree)
blimey, it's only half up to date! can't be that hard to knock out the rest.
Geoff Collier
Active Member
belboid said:
cant find the one with the tree growing out of Trotskys hair! (tho i did finally find the right tree)
blimey, it's only half up to date! can't be that hard to knock out the rest.
That was the Big Flame one I mentioned earlier. Proper attribution and all that
If you're serious about doing an update, it would be advisable to have a few consultants or something. I'd be prepared to volunteer if you like.
The key points are that the WRP lost Roy Bull's group in 1979 - they consciously stopped being trots quite soon - and split asunder in 1985. I think that at least 9 groups were identifiable following that.
Then the ICL and WSL fused for three years, losing a tendency in the meantime (which still exists in south London). The IMG split three or four ways
and other single splits occurred in the SWP and Militant. Not forgetting the Spartacists who were a product of two or three splits in the WSL and one in the IMG.
voiceofreason
Well-Known Member
which is fair criticism by and large, though what about endless discussion threads on internet talkboards which achieve even less ?
Geoff Collier
Active Member
laptop said:
The Revolutionary Communist Tendency left the RCG in about 1976, which is on the chart. In about 1980 they became the RCP who developed into today's Institute of Ideas. What the chart omits is the Discussion Group ie some members of the Right Opposition in IS who left but didn't go into the RCG. That's not surprising really given the low profile they kept
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Probably will be satirised sooner or later.voiceofreason said:
JoePolitix
Gone
Geoff Collier said:
The late Royston "raging" Bull formally edited the grandly titled "Economic, Philosophic & Science Review" and I had assumed that since his death it was no longer produced, but I just visited the website and it turns out there was one published last december:
http://www.epsr-marx-lenin.co.uk/
You've got to love that writting style!
Geoff Collier
Active Member
JoePolitix said:
Sorry to be a pedant, but was that "formally" meant to be "formerly"?
JoePolitix
Gone
Geoff Collier said:
Apology rejected!
What unites most far left groups is that they all seem to believe in Socialism from above...They don't trust ordinary people to run things and think that they need to be led and told and what to do....Amusingly some of them claim to believe in socialism from below and to be "libertarian"
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
tbaldwin said:
Some people claim to be "authoritarian socialists".
Fisher_Gate
Active Member
Pre-1918 there were dozens of groups too. It was only because of the status of Russian Revolution and the creation of the Communist (third) International roughly from 1918-1925 that people got used to the idea the natural order was to have only one or two left wing parties. Outside of that brief period there have been many. The Communist Manifesto took the line that there should only be one party, but it has never been achieved outside of totalitarianism. It's sad but not that surprising.
I thought you were unaligned?militant atheist
avoidant
S'funny how this tired old analogy is only applied to left-wing groups. The far-right has its own band of fractious meglomaniacs. How's about -
British National Party
National Front
New National Front
League of St George
British People's Party
British Movement
November 9th Society
Wolf's Hook White Brotherhood
New Nationalist Party
Combat 18
England First Party
National Alliance
for a start. Most of whom seem to be splinters of the old NF.
British National Party
National Front
New National Front
League of St George
British People's Party
British Movement
November 9th Society
Wolf's Hook White Brotherhood
New Nationalist Party
Combat 18
England First Party
National Alliance
for a start. Most of whom seem to be splinters of the old NF.
militant atheist said:S'funny how this tired old analogy is only applied to left-wing groups. The far-right has its own band of fractious meglomaniacs. How's about -
British National Party
National Front
New National Front
League of St George
British People's Party
British Movement
November 9th Society
Wolf's Hook White Brotherhood
New Nationalist Party
Combat 18
England First Party
National Alliance
for a start. Most of whom seem to be splinters of the old NF.
But the far right at least have the BNP who have been quite succesful. The most succesful organisation on the Left if you exclude the Greens is erm er RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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