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Lib Dems push Labour into third place in polls: is this the breakthrough?
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cesare
shady's dreams ♥
You might not
You might start a trade union
You might not
You might get into journalism
You might not
You might become an anarchist
You might not
Overall, you're probably best in the Libdems.
untethered
For industry & decency
The best thing about STV is that you can vote for candidates from all your favourite parties.
hey thats almost a poem!
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
If you don't know how to go about things, join the Libdems [join the Libdems, join the Libdems]
Though you sometimes do come by
The occasional black eye
You can always cover one
'Til Labour blacks the other one
But you don't dare cry.
If you don't know how to go about things, join the Libdems [join the Libdems, join the Libdems]
But the grass is green and dense
Perching right atop of the 'fence'.
And we take good care of it
That we get our share of it
And we don't mean pence.
If you don't know how to go about things, join the Libdems [join the Libdems, join the Libdems]
I remember Orpington. But that was the old Liberal Party. They got so excited, you would have thought they were going to take over the whole world.
Shevek you really don't know what the LibDems are really like. I used to campaign against them in the days when there was a Labour Party to work for. Their whole idea was just to find things locally that were causes of discontent and blame them on the local Labour council - when often they were the responsibility of the Tory County Council (road maintenance for example). They did not talk about policies but would go down the street telling each person what they wanted to hear regardless of whether it was the opposite of what they had said earlier. One of their special tricks was to sit in council listening to things that were passed to happen, such as in one case a new Pelican crossing. Once it was agreed they started to campaign for such a thing, and lo and behold it happened. They then claimed credit for it and it appeared in their pretend newspaper.
LibDems were entirely unscrupulous. They have no basic values. They just want power for themselves and don't represent any people outside of their own party. I am not saying that nowadays the other parties are any different but the LibDems got there first. I despise them.
Shevek you really don't know what the LibDems are really like. I used to campaign against them in the days when there was a Labour Party to work for. Their whole idea was just to find things locally that were causes of discontent and blame them on the local Labour council - when often they were the responsibility of the Tory County Council (road maintenance for example). They did not talk about policies but would go down the street telling each person what they wanted to hear regardless of whether it was the opposite of what they had said earlier. One of their special tricks was to sit in council listening to things that were passed to happen, such as in one case a new Pelican crossing. Once it was agreed they started to campaign for such a thing, and lo and behold it happened. They then claimed credit for it and it appeared in their pretend newspaper.
LibDems were entirely unscrupulous. They have no basic values. They just want power for themselves and don't represent any people outside of their own party. I am not saying that nowadays the other parties are any different but the LibDems got there first. I despise them.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
An example of Libdem's fucking idiocy stretching back 15 years:
Lib Dems set to limit Asian poll candidates: Tower Hamlets party fears BNP voting surge
Lib Dems set to limit Asian poll candidates: Tower Hamlets party fears BNP voting surge
Their aim is to take votes off Labour where the Tories are weak enough not to be a threat and take them off the Tories where Labour are similarly weak. They like to seek out and split off any uncommitted the votes, especially if they can take a local authority or constiuency by this method. That is why they cannot have a national stance on any issue, and why they cannot answer questions about a deal in the event of a hung parliament. They are all things to all men. They really are the pits.
dennisr
the acceptable face
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
Then you will have nothing to say about anything actually done by Lib Dems.
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
All denial.
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
No, no, and thrice no. When it comes to bigotry that is the bigger picture. To use bigotry for electoral gain is unforgiveable. To attempt to justify it is quite apalling.
It's true that all parties have engaged in pandering to bigotry at some point in recent years. It's why I'm currently not willing to join any. However at least the Tories and Labour don't try to pretend it's justified.
Bigger picture indeed.
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
Ever met the bastard? I have.
Some years back I stood for the council along with another local tenants activist and a black community activist as part of the Labour slate. We'd go onto an estate to canvas and get an excellent response. Then we'd go back a while later and see Lib Dem posters up and all the white tenants would give us shit like "we won't vote Labour because they give all the money to the blacks". Some Labour supporters also reported Lib Dem canvassers attempting to persuade them precisely that, and also in some cases falsely claiming that out black candidate had stolen grant money ("see what happens when you give money to the blacks"). It was a blatantly racist campaign.
Ashdown's London flat was in the ward and he came out campaigning with the locals now and again. One time I approached him and asked his views on racist campaigning by Lib Dem activists. He just laughed and walked off.
The man's as bad as any of the rest of them. Or he's a moron.
i'm surprised someone who's ex army has those views!! Ho ho
There was an old politician who lived in a shoe who had so many policies he didn't know what to do.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Those pretend newspapers may be more than anything else what I dislike about them (well, that and the constant sense of moral superiority).
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
Does Nick Clegg confuse anyone? Like, obviously he's the leader of the Lib Dems, but he sets off the Tory radar incredibly strongly. He is absolutely reminiscent of Cameron in his manner, priorities, even his appearance.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Is it not then?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
It does actually have double the number of policies of the other main parties. This is because it has one set for Labour areas and one for Tory areas.
nino_savatte
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Nick Clegg: a brief resumé
1. Went to Caldicott and Westminster School
2. Studied Archaeology and Anthropology at Cambridge
3. Was a member of Cambridge Uni's Conservative Association
4. He is related to Russian nobility
5.Went to University of Minnesota to study political philosophy
6. Worked under Christopher Hitchens as an intern on The Nation magazine
7. This fucker collects Masters degrees like people collect beer glasses
8. Wrote for the Financial Times before becoming an MEP in 1999
1. Went to Caldicott and Westminster School
2. Studied Archaeology and Anthropology at Cambridge
3. Was a member of Cambridge Uni's Conservative Association
4. He is related to Russian nobility
5.Went to University of Minnesota to study political philosophy
6. Worked under Christopher Hitchens as an intern on The Nation magazine
7. This fucker collects Masters degrees like people collect beer glasses
8. Wrote for the Financial Times before becoming an MEP in 1999
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
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