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oryx

oryx

Sitting on the bock of the day
Gutted to find out via Twitter that the lovely Mr Lawrence wine bar in Crofton Park closes on 5 May.

I have been going there longer than living nearby and it is a real proper old-school wine bar that pre-dates the ongoing gentrification of Crofton Park, and a bit of a local institution. Not sure why it's closing - suspect the owners are retiring. We will be going in there before it closes to say farewell and thanks for all the (good, reasonably priced) wine.
 
Rutita1

Rutita1

Council Estate Socialist
Lewisham Deptford Labour Party

JUSTICE FOR WINDRUSH: CALL TO ACTION

On 10th May, your Labour Party representatives on the General Committee unanimously called for local and national action in solidarity with Windrush generation families and other migrant communities impacted by Prime Minister May’s “hostile environment” policies.

The emergency motion (see below) calls on

  1. Our MP Vicky Foxcroft to hold a public meeting on the Windrush scandal to establish a framework in which people’s stories can be heard; people’s concerns and information documented in order to help prepare legal cases.

  2. On Labour Party members to participate in/or organise Justice for Windrush Generation outreach to help raise awareness of the agencies, advice centres, service providers and online help, available to those who need it.
As proposed by the floor, the Windrush commemorations towards the end of June are a perfect opportunity to organise coordinated borough-wide action. We will work closely with our MP Vicky Foxcroft and her team to produce leaflets and posters to support outreach.

Here’s how you can participate:


  • Nominate a contact person: email us at: lewishamdept.labour.bame@gmail.com if you’d like to be a contact person for your ward and/or would like to organise an event. We will send you leaflets and regular updates.

  • Come to an informal meeting “BEYOND THE WINDRUSH SCANDAL” on Sunday 27th May: This is a meeting bringing people across boroughs together, including speakers who will be sharing their expertise, to coordinate activities and strategies. EVERYONE WELCOME - not just BAME - we need everyone involved. 6:30 - 8:30pm at the New Cross Learning. - please help us get as many people there as possible by sharing the attached social media graphic.
We need your help and active participation to organise coordinated action in all corners of our borough.

We only have a few weeks to get organised.

Please get in touch if you would like to participate or if you can help us design and produce materials.

We look forward to hearing from you.

In unity,

Isabel and Marcela

LD BAME FORUM Secretaries.
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LEWISHAM DEPTFORD BAME FORUM - EMERGENCY MOTION ON WINDRUSH SCANDAL


WE DENOUNCE:

The government’s introduction of hostile measures that have made it increasingly difficult for people to access the most basic of services and legal support, in order to navigate the UK's increasingly complicated and costly immigration system.

WE CONDEMN:

That many people from Commonwealth countries, unable to supply official “right to stay documentation, have been targeted as illegal, threatened with deportation, denied benefits and healthcare.

WE ACKNOWLEDGE:

That public outcry and pressure from Labour MPs such as Diane Abbott, David Lammy and Dawn Butler has forced the Conservative government to promise compensation and citizenship for their mistreatment of the Windrush generation, and that Home Secretary Amber Rudd was forced to resign.

WE STRESS:

That is not enough and that while the spotlight remains on the Windrush generation, less visible victims of the government’s immigration policies continue to suffer and be at risk.

NOTING THE ABOVE AND THAT: Lewisham and Deptford has a large ethnic minority community, including many African and Caribbean people.

WE STRONGLY URGE:

· Lewisham Council, Mayor and MP Vicky Foxcroft to join the calls for justice by:

· Holding a public meeting on the Windrush scandal to establish a framework in which people’s stories can be heard; people’s concerns and information documented in order to help prepare legal cases.

· Calling on the government to; grant the amnesty and compensation, full restoration of rights – including return for those deported that want to return - for all Windrush generation migrants and their children; to stop all deportations until all Commonwealth citizens who arrived before 1971 and their descendants have their British citizenship confirmed; to abolish measures in the 2014 Immigration Act, that have forced landlords, health professionals, employers, teachers to demand information from people on their immigration status; to provide a comprehensive report outlined the number of deportees, lives, homes/jobs and benefits lost and the number that have been held in detention, and have died as a consequence.

WE CALL ON:

· Lewisham Labour councillors to not rely on the Home Office 'help line' reportedly run by unqualified agency staff and instead lead in supporting residents by running confidential councillor sessions, where possible with BAME members, working together with local immigration lawyers to establish free drop in advice sessions in the coming months.

· CLP activists to support our councillors, our MP, and Mayor, by organising a Justice for Windrush action day - organise stalls and leafletting across the borough - to promote the public meeting and drop in advice surgeries and at the same time reach out to other communities affected.
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ddraig

ddraig

dros ben llestri
:eek: wow!! swappies doing something other than speeches and paper selling!!
or real people given placards as per usual?
 
bromley

bromley

...isn't as good as Lewisham.
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Maybe I'm wrong, but this doesn't seem like 1977 to me where the NF were out to cause violence and against the community. I don't know much about this and expect to be put in my place but preventing free speech doesn't sit well with my, unless it is inciting violence.
 
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Mr Smin

Registered Luser
bromley said:
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Maybe I'm wrong, but this doesn't seem like 1977 to me where the NF were out to cause violence and against the community. I don't know much about this and expect to be put in my place but preventing free speech doesn't sit well with my, unless it is inciting violence.
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You let them get a toe-hold and after that they'll be inciting violence.

I do wonder what the point of a hustings is though. A tiny number of attendees will be genuinely undecided. And all candidates can and should put a statement online, and a speech on YouTube, for anyone who couldn't get to the event.
 
Puddy_Tat

Puddy_Tat

meh
this weekend is 50 years since the lewisham floods (which extended as far south as bellingham)

local blog 'running past' has a detailed post on it here



perspective - this was taken outside the entrance to the Odeon - this is about the closest i can get to the same angle on street view - the church is still there, the site that's now the old billodrome was then chiesmans department store. i guess their bargain basement was somewhat soggy...

mum-tat's photos (i was not around just quite yet at the time) here
 
not-bono-ever

not-bono-ever

They are ringing the bells now but soon...
I see a section 60 was imposed on LB Lewisham until 3AM today(sunday) after a pretty shitty day or two and with bonfire night scheduled
 
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GarveyLives

Well-Known Member
Maggot said:
What is a section 60?
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This is 15-year old local resident Jay Hughes (also known as Jai Sewell) who was stabbed to death outside Morley's on Randlesdown Road, Bellingham, at 5.20 p.m.on Thursday 1 November 2018 ...


... following the murder, an order was granted enabling the use of temporary powers under section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, which applies where a senior officer (Assistant Chief Constable or above) believes people may be carrying weapons or causing serious violence in a particular area. Where a S60 has been granted, police officers have the power to stop and search people for offensive weapons or dangerous instruments, without the having reasonable grounds. They may require the removal of certain items of clothing.

No arrests have yet been made in relation to the murder of this child.
 
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GarveyLives

Well-Known Member
GarveyLives said:
This is 15-year old local resident Jay Hughes (also known as Jai Sewell) who was stabbed to death outside Morley's on Randlesdown Road, Bellingham, at 5.20 p.m.on Thursday 1 November 2018 ...


... following the murder, an order was granted enabling the use of temporary powers under section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, which applies where a senior officer (Assistant Chief Constable or above) believes people may be carrying weapons or causing serious violence in a particular area. Where a S60 has been granted, police officers have the power to stop and search people for offensive weapons or dangerous instruments, without the having reasonable grounds. They may require the removal of certain items of clothing.

No arrests have yet been made in relation to the murder of this child.
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From the scene ...

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Pickman's model

Pickman's model

every man and every woman is a star
GarveyLives said:
This is 15-year old local resident Jay Hughes (also known as Jai Sewell) who was stabbed to death outside Morley's on Randlesdown Road, Bellingham, at 5.20 p.m.on Thursday 1 November 2018 ...


... following the murder, an order was granted enabling the use of temporary powers under section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, which applies where a senior officer (Assistant Chief Constable or above) believes people may be carrying weapons or causing serious violence in a particular area. Where a S60 has been granted, police officers have the power to stop and search people for offensive weapons or dangerous instruments, without the having reasonable grounds. They may require the removal of certain items of clothing.

No arrests have yet been made in relation to the murder of this child.
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Your section 60 info inaccurate
 
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GarveyLives

Well-Known Member
GarveyLives said:
This is 15-year old local resident Jay Hughes (also known as Jai Sewell) who was stabbed to death outside Morley's on Randlesdown Road, Bellingham, at 5.20 p.m.on Thursday 1 November 2018 ...


... following the murder, an order was granted enabling the use of temporary powers under section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, which applies where a senior officer (Assistant Chief Constable or above) believes people may be carrying weapons or causing serious violence in a particular area. Where a S60 has been granted, police officers have the power to stop and search people for offensive weapons or dangerous instruments, without the having reasonable grounds. They may require the removal of certain items of clothing.

No arrests have yet been made in relation to the murder of this child.
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Footage of the incident has now been released.





Anyone with information that may assist the investigation, including the identity of the person shown on the right, is asked to call police on 0208 345 3734.

To remain anonymous, call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

You can also tweet police via @MetCC
 
Puddy_Tat

Puddy_Tat

meh
on tweeter today from SE23Ldn


the bridge from the lewisham shopping centre (think it was still called the riverdale centre then) to chiesmans department store while it was under construction (there was a clear plastic tube installed inside the frame before it was opened.)

or was it trading as army and navy or house of fraser by then?

somewhere early 80s-ish.

perspective - the police station more or less covers the ground that chiesmans did. boots is still where it is in the photo, and the clock tower got moved when the bit of the high street where the market happens got pedestrianised.
 
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Puddy_Tat

Puddy_Tat

meh
on tweeter today, 1933 film of the opening of Tower House - then the Royal Arsenal Co-operative Society's Lewisham department store.

:)

Tower House is still there (unlike Chiesmans next door which was where the police station is now) - think some of it was going to get converted in to luxury bloody flats a year or two back, but not sure if this happened.

Can't remember exactly when it packed up, must have been early 80s - basement was food supermarket kind of thing, upper floors were department stores. Like Chiesmans, it suffered from being on the wrong side of the High Street which got worse when the Riverdale Centre opened in the mid 70s.
 
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