Let's talk about China

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by not-bono-ever, Jul 29, 2015.

  1. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Not what they want but what is good for them

    Lots of stuff happening,much of which is covered in other threads but I do think its worth while having a thread on china- observations and comment on its ongoing political and probably more importantly,economic* travails.

    * no smart arse economic knowledge oneupmanship or muscle flexing allowed-lets keep this accessible...
     
  2. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Free the Sepsis Six!

    Their human rights are shite, they are hoovering up resources and polluting at an astonishing rate, no one cares cos we like cheap tat.
     
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  3. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist slowtime

    on the other hand, investement in african infrastructure.
     
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  4. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    we will care when it is no longer so cheap
     
  5. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    and the purchasing of infrastructure throughout the rest of the world, e.g. liverpool docks.
     
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  6. Diamond

    Diamond The Red Baron

    I don't buy the peaceful rise stuff one bit - why would you trust a government that is so oppressive to its own people?

    The nine-dot line stuff is worrying, as is the Senkaku dispute with Japan.
     
  7. Diamond

    Diamond The Red Baron

    It'll also be interesting to see how Chinese policy progresses on N.Korea as well.
     
  8. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Not what they want but what is good for them

  9. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Not what they want but what is good for them

    Mods - can you lock the thread please.we have our conclusion already
     
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  10. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Not what they want but what is good for them

  11. frogwoman

    frogwoman лягушкая женщина

    the cross-removal campaign they've got going on is a bit concerning especially since according to some reports, they employed a bunch of militant buddhist monks to help them do it.

    DotCommunist - you/your mum might know more on persecution of xtians in that part of the world?
     
  12. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist slowtime


    I'll ask- the church in china has always reported persecution though. Bible smuggling became a thing at one point. Like bringing in illicit literature.
     
  13. frogwoman

    frogwoman лягушкая женщина

  14. SpackleFrog

    SpackleFrog Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts

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  15. Artaxerxes

    Artaxerxes Well-Known Member

    Eh, I consider them no worse than some of the economists we've had coming up with great ideas (that coincidentally benefited them and their mates rather than actual working people)
     
  16. bi0boy

    bi0boy Power User

    China is the world's lead investor in wind power and invested more in renewables than the EU last year, they are on target for 20% of energy from renewables by 2020. The UK's target is 15%. In 2015 China aims to install more than twice as much solar capacity as the US installed last year. China is also strengthening it's targets to reduce coal consumption and is targeting a reduction in total energy use per unit of GDP.
     
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  17. SpackleFrog

    SpackleFrog Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts

    That's interesting, got a source?

    I believe I read something a while back about how China was producing more wind turbines and solar panels than there was demand for in the global economy at one point.
     
  18. machine cat

    machine cat nod from the big man as kosher Banned

    Don't really understand what the cross removal is all about really. There's not that many churches in China, visibly at least. As for persecution, obviously there's a long history of it, but these days most christians are very open about their practise, the western missionaries even more so.
     
  19. Combustible

    Combustible Well-Known Member

    It's also a bit rich to complain about China's energy consumption, when it is lower per capita then most Western countries. And that includes the energy used to produce the cheap tat for said Western consumers.
     
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  20. Coolfonz

    Coolfonz Not cool or a member of the Fonz family

    iirc it was 2012 china produced more solar panels in TW capacity terms than were installed in the world at the time.

    at which point everyone else's solar panel producers went bust.

    something like that...
     
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  21. yield

    yield zero

    This is what China's version of Quantitative Easing looks like
    09/08/15
    I wonder if it is "enough"

    China slashes U.S. debt stake by $180 Billion, bonds shrug
    09/08/15
    A tenth of their U$ Treasuries and no movement. With a rising dollar and possibly interest rate increases.
     
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  22. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

    I heard yesterday that the Chinese had bought Wentworth golf club. It was said they are putting up the joint fee to £100K AND annual membership fee to £30,000 pa. Mixed blessings with this one.
     
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  23. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    i will be more concerned when they buy wentworth detention centre
     
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  24. fredfelt

    fredfelt Mostly unknown member

    Steve Bell has had China as a subject of his last few cartoons. I liked this one.

    [​IMG]
     
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  25. jusali

    jusali Happy daze.....


    Or invest in our Nuclear industry.............
     
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  26. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Not what they want but what is good for them

    They have just cut their interest rates and reserve requirements for banks to free up more cash.the slowdown seems to have hit home. It's 4Real officially now
     
  27. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    shit's gonna hit the fan
     
  28. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

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  29. OURWEI

    OURWEI New Member

    "The Chinese" is a bit broad. :facepalm:

    I've got some specific news about Chinese money looking for a new home. Huawei is going on a buying spree. Their aim is to buy tech companies in and around Europe. What does that mean for consumers? What does it mean for the big picture? I've got some ideas. Anyone else?
     
  30. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

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