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Let Our Kids be Kids - 3 May 2016: Primary School Kids to strike against SATS

Tomorrow, I'll be trying (probably in vain) to shift some work commitments so I can take our little one out of school next week. I might even work Monday to free up Tuesday. He's hating school at the moment and his teacher is hating teaching the shit they've been handed down. Gove and Morgan have taken all the joy out of learning.
 
What a good idea - but I wonder if childcare issues will mean poor uptake.


I wish more parents would just refuse to let their kids participate in primary age testing.
A naive non-parent asks: if it's a mass-organised thing could parents organise childcare together? Like on a school trip, a few parents volunteer to care for multiple children?

I guess it might be possible for some but not most?

My brother is a primary school teacher but is not a fan of striking, doesn't like the idea of kids missing classes (we've gone round in circles on this a number of times...); will be interesting to hear his take on this.
 
I'm all for trying to raise standards in education but the new curriculum and year 2 SATS tests are absolutely ridiculous. Kids are being asked to learn content 9-12 months ahead of the previous year and I can literally see the enthusiasm for learning draining out of my 6 year old lad. Add to that the manner in which the new curriculum has been introduced and I have the utmost sympathy for teachers. However, I don't agree that taking children out of school for the day next Tuesday is the right course of action.
 
There's a big 'we're not at school' picnic being organised in Bristol.

I read up on the kids strike but it seemed a bit arbitrary - he's mostly done his sats already, it's not like they are all sitting them on the same day like the KS2 ones.
 
I remember by daughter's year 2 teacher telling me they were at their wits end with the stats and that it's overly stressful. Some of the words in the spelling tests didn't even exist! It's totally outrageous that children this young should be tested under pressure like this, tested st all for that matter.

I will definately support a mass absence on 3rd.
 
I'm all for trying to raise standards in education but the new curriculum and year 2 SATS tests are absolutely ridiculous. Kids are being asked to learn content 9-12 months ahead of the previous year and I can literally see the enthusiasm for learning draining out of my 6 year old lad. Add to that the manner in which the new curriculum has been introduced and I have the utmost sympathy for teachers. However, I don't agree that taking children out of school for the day next Tuesday is the right course of action.
Why not?
 
I just don't see what taking kids out of school for one day achieves. I think a more coordinated effort led by the teaching staff would make a louder noise and carry more weight. Our school head has spent the last 12 months rightly complaining about the curriculum change and ill thought out way in which the SATS have been introduced yet tells parents that the school will not support them in taking their kids out for the day next week which I find disappointing.
 
I remember by daughter's year 2 teacher telling me they were at their wits end with the stats and that it's overly stressful. Some of the words in the spelling tests didn't even exist! It's totally outrageous that children this young should be tested under pressure like this, tested st all for that matter.

I will definately support a mass absence on 3rd.
Using words which don't exist is part of the Y1 tests werv did last year, he had to work out which ones were words and which were nonsense
 
Won't taking the kids out of school for the day and telling them that they are striking encourage them to do it again?

For this reason alone I'm massively against a name change or switching to an alternative action.

Teaching primary-school children how to go on strike constitutes a huge improvement in educational standards.

:)
 
Won't taking the kids out of school for the day and telling them that they are striking encourage them to do it again?

For this reason alone I'm massively against a name change or switching to an alternative action.

Teaching primary-school children how to go on strike constitutes a huge improvement in educational standards.

:)

My main point is that this is not the decision of the kids, its the parents choosing to pull their kids out. And, at this point in time, action by parents, as parents, will carry some weight as the gov't (indeed successive gov'ts) are trying desperately to pitch parents against teachers - especially regarding teachers' strikes.
 
My main point is that this is not the decision of the kids, its the parents choosing to pull their kids out. And, at this point in time, action by parents, as parents, will carry some weight as the gov't (indeed successive gov'ts) are trying desperately to pitch parents against teachers - especially regarding teachers' strikes.

Which is why I think some unified action by parents ans teachers together which leaves the kids out of it is the best way forward.
 
My main point is that this is not the decision of the kids, its the parents choosing to pull their kids out. And, at this point in time, action by parents, as parents, will carry some weight as the gov't (indeed successive gov'ts) are trying desperately to pitch parents against teachers - especially regarding teachers' strikes.
Kids if a certain age will get an understanding of striking and the reasons about it and how empowering it is. I think that is what was meant by stuff_it.

I've just raised the question on our PTA page and it's getting a discussion moving. Seems there are parents taking kids out that day but nothing has been made official. I'm hoping to gather support there for it.
 
Kids if a certain age will get an understanding of striking and the reasons about it and how empowering it is. I think that is what was meant by stuff_it.

Yeah.

All of which is valid.

But I'm not sure a Year 2 child is at a point where they can take an informed decision to strike though.

They might, some might, some might not.

However this isn't that. Its a parental decision. And as that, in this context, that is powerful enough.
 
Unfortunately lots of parents have bought into the whole testing/league tables/parental choice paradigm. It's intensely damaging to education and helps enable the gov't to push thru' its privatisation agenda.

If there was a big kick back by parents against testing/league tables/parental choice blah blah blah it could be really positive.

I hope this "strike" is evidence of this.
 
I think what would be more powerful is if year 2 parents refused to let their children sit for the SATS. I wish I could have done that. What on earth do the results prove anyway?!

This is where I fall down on the whole issue - he's already sat the tests ... taking him out on Tuesday doesn't seem as effective as him missing the actual SATS (but we/the kids don't get told when they will be)
 
Unfortunately lots of parents have bought into the whole testing/league tables/parental choice paradigm. It's intensely damaging to education and helps enable the gov't to push thru' its privatisation agenda.

If there was a big kick back by parents against testing/league tables/parental choice blah blah blah it could be really positive.

I hope this "strike" is evidence of this.
Have they? I don't know a single parent who thinks KS1 testing is anything other than a steaming pile of shit
 
Have they? I don't know a single parent who thinks KS1 testing is anything other than a steaming pile of shit

I know a fair few "aspirational" parents who whilst they may not be proclaiming support for testing are certainly full on into using the results of these tests to judge schools as a basis for exercising their right to choose...
 
Unfortunately lots of parents have bought into the whole testing/league tables/parental choice paradigm. It's intensely damaging to education and helps enable the gov't to push thru' its privatisation agenda.

If there was a big kick back by parents against testing/league tables/parental choice blah blah blah it could be really positive.

I hope this "strike" is evidence of this.
totally this. hated it when i was a kid and hate it now...massively anti all of this forced bullshit. I think it's as simple as following more of a Scandi idea of education...it really does work there.
 
This is where I fall down on the whole issue - he's already sat the tests ... taking him out on Tuesday doesn't seem as effective as him missing the actual SATS (but we/the kids don't get told when they will be)
So has my daughter but it's not just about the SATS, it's about the restriction in teaching generally and about further pointless, testing that does nothing but stress children out.
 
I know a fair few "aspirational" parents who whilst they may not be proclaiming support for testing are certainly full on into using the results of these tests to judge schools as a basis for exercising their right to choose...
TBH, I can sort of understand why people do that - how else do you judge how good a school is? Unless you know people who's kids attend (and I think that's far better than any Ofsted report or test), you go for a look around and the kids and teachers smile and they all say the right things. They all look the same.

At my son's school, apparently the whole of year 6 has been invited in to free breakfast club because the head is worried that some kids aren't having breakfast (she'd be right). It's pretty cynical to care about the kids' nutritional needs just during SATs IMO but we didn't get the highest results in the district last year so she's keen to fix that :rolleyes:
 
At my son's school, apparently the whole of year 6 has been invited in to free breakfast club because the head is worried that some kids aren't having breakfast (she'd be right). It's pretty cynical to care about the kids' nutritional needs just during SATs IMO but we didn't get the highest results in the district last year so she's keen to fix that :rolleyes:
A lot (most?) primaries do breakfast for Y6 during SATs week - apart from feeding them, it makes sure they're at school on time, ready to be tested...
 
Some of the words in the spelling tests didn't even exist!.

Using words which don't exist is part of the Y1 tests werv did last year, he had to work out which ones were words and which were nonsense
Hence the bizarre situation of walking into a Y1/2 class to see children being 'taught' words that don't exist... Christ, saying to a Y4/5 yo ,'is 'glerg' a real word?' 'Erm in my limited experience of all the words there are, can I say possibly?'
 
Hence the bizarre situation of walking into a Y1/2 class to see children being 'taught' words that don't exist... Christ, saying to a Y4/5 yo ,'is 'glerg' a real word?' 'Erm in my limited experience of all the words there are, can I say possibly?'

I was in an SEN lecture the other week looking at reading assessments and this stuff came up. There was a rationale behind it, but I can't remember (concisely) what it was, not really my area at all.
 
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