Lee Perry and his absurd obsession with farm animals

[Donna Ferentes]

But you take the point, that it is hard to carry on a civilised discussion in an atmosphere of abuse. One or the two approaches must ultimately drive out the other.

And of course there is a subsidary point, that if an atmosphere of abuse, or generally low-level argument characterised by hyperbole and posturing, is typical of a given form of subject matter, then it may tell you something about that subject matter.)

 

[phildwyer]

Well personally I thought there were a lot of good points made in that thread, mainly by yourself and Dubversion. There was a hell of a lot of personal abuse as well which is out of order of course but despite that it was one of the better threads at the time.

I don't anyone is objecting to personal abuse per se, as long as its mixed with some sort of contribution to the debate, or even just with a bit of wit. But all we hear from PK is how hard he is, how violent he'd like to be, how much he can swear and, just in case we'd forgotten, how very very hard and violent he is. What's the point of that? Apart from the obvious psychological imperative for PK himself.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Oh dear....this is all very nasty...well, here's what I think...I agree that genius is a very over-used word, but frankly Donna, you could just have left it at that...it's a thread about music that you've never heard and aren't interested in......as for pk....well, it's the usual macho overkill...makes me think of men with very fast expensive cars with long phallic bonnets....

 

[snadge]

...makes me think of men with very fast expensive cars with long phallic bonnets....

 

[Mrs Magpie]

But that's a tiny car designed for a puppet with an over-sized head.....

 

[snadge]

designed for a puppet with an over-sized head.....

exactly, an apt description for those boys that need their toys.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

You realise that every time I think of pk I will now have an image of Lady Penelope!

 

[phildwyer]

<snipped--my question was answered by PM.

 

[perplexis]

So.
Lee Perry and farmyard noises.

Why?

 

[Mungy]

i don't know who lee perry is

i thought the floyd were the inovators of using animal sounds in music

 

[perplexis]

i don't know who lee perry is

i thought the floyd were the inovators of using animal sounds in music

Lee Perry is (rightly in the opinion of numerous people) said to be a genius.
He produced lots of dub music, much of which was and is acclaimed. He produced a vast number of tracks for many many people.
He bears the "genius" tag especially well as tehre are lots of great rumours about what a total fruitloop he is. He is reputed to have burned down his own studio (for a variety reasons, the only one I believe is "in mourning at the passing of Haile Selassie" which is just as likely to be made up as all the rest), and then spent the next 3 days walking around Kingston backwards. With a hammer.
And did I mention he's an awseome dub producer?

 

[Pigeon]

Lee Perry is (rightly in the opinion of numerous people) said to be a genius.
He produced lots of dub music, much of which was and is acclaimed. He produced a vast number of tracks for many many people.
He bears the "genius" tag especially well as tehre are lots of great rumours about what a total fruitloop he is. He is reputed to have burned down his own studio (for a variety reasons, the only one I believe is "in mourning at the passing of Haile Selassie" which is just as likely to be made up as all the rest), and then spent the next 3 days walking around Kingston backwards. With a hammer.
And did I mention he's an awseome dub producer?

Wasn't the studio thing meant to have been to do with the fact that there was an increasing number of slack-arse dreads turning up at the Ark to freeload? Far as I recall, Perry just seems to have eventually thought "sod this" and torched the cash cow (not the singing one...). For all his rumoured lunacy, let's not forget he was shrewd enough to marry a Swiss heiress...

the cow, by the way, was a kid's toy box-thingy. Turn it upside down and it mooooooooooooooooos.

To make that sound atmospheric and, at times, heartbreaking can certainly be described as an act of genius IMO.

 

[perplexis]

Wasn't the studio thing meant to have been to do with the fact that there was an increasing number of slack-arse dreads turning up at the Ark to freeload? Far as I recall, Perry just seems to have eventually thought "sod this" and torched the cash cow (not the singing one...). For all his rumoured lunacy, let's not forget he was shrewd enough to marry a Swiss heiress...

the cow, by the way, was a kid's toy box-thingy. Turn it upside down and it mooooooooooooooooos.

To make that sound atmospheric and, at times, heartbreaking can certainly be described as an act of genius IMO.

*adds yet another reason to the list*
That sounds pretty plausible to me.
I don't really want to find out the definitive answer, it'll ruin the mythos for me
I used to have one of those moo-boxes.
I was thinking about it the other day.
And yeah, anyone who can turn that into music, let alone anything as complex and original as Lee Perry must merit some kind of bonus credibility points even from even the most anally retentive of our resident pedants.

 

[Bajie]

He once said "the moooo the moooo the moooo is for moses", he might of just been trying to justify the mooing though, I cant remember which interview that was, maybe Kiss FM when Joey Jay was still a DJ on it.

 

[Yossarian]

Lee Perry is (rightly in the opinion of numerous people) said to be a genius.
He produced lots of dub music, much of which was and is acclaimed. He produced a vast number of tracks for many many people.
He bears the "genius" tag especially well as tehre are lots of great rumours about what a total fruitloop he is. He is reputed to have burned down his own studio (for a variety reasons, the only one I believe is "in mourning at the passing of Haile Selassie" which is just as likely to be made up as all the rest), and then spent the next 3 days walking around Kingston backwards. With a hammer.
And did I mention he's an awseome dub producer?

I agree - and why the fuck would anyone with no interest in dub go on a thread about Lee Perry to quibble about the exact definition of 'genius'?

The animal noises can start to get on my nerves a little though...

 

[rutabowa]

*adds yet another reason to the list*

i also heard the real reason was an electrical fire... which i kind of believe. Here is a load of people recording in the Black Ark